As a traveling innkeeper do you tip at a B&B where you stay?

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 While we are on the subject, is anyone located near Cincinnati OH coming from the east? We will be driving out from Virginia in late December or January to pick up our new dogs. Since we lost our last Borzoi, I have been going through serious doggie withdrawl. 

I would rather book with someone I know! We are looking for on the way out -without dogs. Will drive straight back with dogs.

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egoodell wrote:
 Since we lost our last Borzoi, I have been going through serious doggie withdrawl. 

Sorry to hear about Sascha...a sweetie.

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egoodell wrote:
 Since we lost our last Borzoi, I have been going through serious doggie withdrawl. 

Sorry to hear about Sascha...a sweetie.

Thank you very much. We miss him very much.

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Sorry to hear about the loss of your other dog.  Still miss my two cocker spaniels after 2 years and think about them all the time since they were with me so long.   And my dh is unrelenting about getting another dog for now.  I'll have to wait until we move to our "retirement" home.    Have a safe journey to pick up your new members of the family!!

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I am not a DIRECT route from where you are, but am just 10 miles north of US Rte 50 and Rte 50 goes directly to Cinci - about 5 hour drive from here. You will be VERY welcome here.

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I am not a DIRECT route from where you are, but am just 10 miles north of US Rte 50 and Rte 50 goes directly to Cinci - about 5 hour drive from here. You will be VERY welcome here.

Thank you so much - but I think you are too far north of our route.  We want to get there and back as fast as possible..

 

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I will tell you who tips at a B&B.  Working class people.  Those who boo-coo bucks do not tip, they do not care about anyone who works anywhere.  Yes, a bold statement. A true statement. The people, in my experience who are the most generous in any gratuity situation are working class, and military.  In fact they KNOW WHO TO TIP, vs the others who do not even "get it" Example:  Fishing charter boat deck hands and first mate, youbetchya, and the more fish, the more work the more you tip! Tip the cook, tip the guy on the dock who filets your fish.  This is standard drill.

Casino - tip the dealer, tip them more if you win. Just like you tip the bar maid who carries your drink over to you.

It is what it is. Smiling

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JB, that is a generalization....but I have to say that it was true here also.  We had very wealthy folks that stayed with us and didn't tip a dime, but they wrote great reviews.  Would have been nice to pass on something to the part-time housekeeper who really jumped through the hoops for them. 

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 We bring presents to the innkeepers and if they're innmates, treat them to dinner out.  We tip if there is staff.  We don't ask for special rates except at SR B&Bs where we don't know the innkeepers, as they have a discount policy, but we give that discount to any innkeeper that stays here (whether Select Registry or not).  We have been to some wonderful B&Bs with fabulous innkeepers, and some not so great.  I will review the good ones but not the bad ones. 

We've had some innkeepers who were not-very-good guests and one who wrote a not-very-kind review after being shown all the professional courtesies and then some.  Much as I would love a reason to return the favor, you couldn't pay me money to stay in his place after my interactions with him.

I have to share a tipping story from my housekeeper - last week she had a tray upstairs with her reading glasses on them, in the hallway while she was stripping the rooms.  A guest walked past and saw them, said she could use glasses to use the computer, and my housekeeper lent them to her, no problem.  The guest left her a $50 tip.

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Where is the "like" button?  That's a great story, Jeanne! 

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 We bring presents to the innkeepers and if they're innmates, treat them to dinner out.  We tip if there is staff.  We don't ask for special rates except at SR B&Bs where we don't know the innkeepers, as they have a discount policy, but we give that discount to any innkeeper that stays here (whether Select Registry or not).  We have been to some wonderful B&Bs with fabulous innkeepers, and some not so great.  I will review the good ones but not the bad ones. 

We've had some innkeepers who were not-very-good guests and one who wrote a not-very-kind review after being shown all the professional courtesies and then some.  Much as I would love a reason to return the favor, you couldn't pay me money to stay in his place after my interactions with him.

I have to share a tipping story from my housekeeper - last week she had a tray upstairs with her reading glasses on them, in the hallway while she was stripping the rooms.  A guest walked past and saw them, said she could use glasses to use the computer, and my housekeeper lent them to her, no problem.  The guest left her a $50 tip.

We like to take the innkeepers out to dinner too if we know them - that's half the fun of visiting! 

Great story about the tip!!

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 We don't normally tip - I have always been trained that you don't tip an owner of a business. If there are employees then we sometimes tip depending. And I don't want people to think they have to tip here. Mainly because the area I'm in is expensive and I don't want people to worry about tipping when they are on vacation. 

We even included the tip for the massage therapst when she comes and make a point of telling guests they don't have to tip. Nothing more uncomfortable than jumping up from the warm table to fumble with your wallet.

When we have employees I hope to install a bonus system so when things are good my employee will enjoy some kind of "commission" from the extra work and service. I don't want them to depend on the kindness of strangers when we are so busy.

When I travel I so appreciate the innkeepers who put us up as well. And we love to have innmates come visit! Come on down as there is lots to do here in wine country!

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egoodell wrote:

 We don't normally tip - I have always been trained that you don't tip an owner of a business. If there are employees then we sometimes tip depending. And I don't want people to think they have to tip here. Mainly because the area I'm in is expensive and I don't want people to worry about tipping when they are on vacation. 

We even included the tip for the massage therapst when she comes and make a point of telling guests they don't have to tip. Nothing more uncomfortable than jumping up from the warm table to fumble with your wallet.

When we have employees I hope to install a bonus system so when things are good my employee will enjoy some kind of "commission" from the extra work and service. I don't want them to depend on the kindness of strangers when we are so busy.

When I travel I so appreciate the innkeepers who put us up as well. And we love to have innmates come visit! Come on down as there is lots to do here in wine country!

RIki

 You should do what we do with our massage therapist.   I designed and printed up a little voucher for the guest to sign after the massage.   Sometimes they ask her to go over the alloted time, so she can add the extra time and have the guest sign it.   There is also a place for the guest to add a gratuity.   She brings the voucher to me,  I write her a check and charge the massage and gratuity to the guests room.   Since there are credit card fees etc.  a $5 service charge is included in the price of the massage.   I keep that.   Everybody's happy.

If you have a service that is customarily accompanied by a gratuity,  simply  indicate "gratuity not indcluded" when you promote it.

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Proud Texan wrote:

egoodell wrote:

 We don't normally tip - I have always been trained that you don't tip an owner of a business. If there are employees then we sometimes tip depending. And I don't want people to think they have to tip here. Mainly because the area I'm in is expensive and I don't want people to worry about tipping when they are on vacation. 

We even included the tip for the massage therapst when she comes and make a point of telling guests they don't have to tip. Nothing more uncomfortable than jumping up from the warm table to fumble with your wallet.

When we have employees I hope to install a bonus system so when things are good my employee will enjoy some kind of "commission" from the extra work and service. I don't want them to depend on the kindness of strangers when we are so busy.

When I travel I so appreciate the innkeepers who put us up as well. And we love to have innmates come visit! Come on down as there is lots to do here in wine country!

RIki

 You should do what we do with our massage therapist.   I designed and printed up a little voucher for the guest to sign after the massage.   Sometimes they ask her to go over the alloted time, so she can add the extra time and have the guest sign it.   There is also a place for the guest to add a gratuity.   She brings the voucher to me,  I write her a check and charge the massage and gratuity to the guests room.   Since there are credit card fees etc.  a $5 service charge is included in the price of the massage.   I keep that.   Everybody's happy.

If you have a service that is customarily accompanied by a gratuity,  simply  indicate "gratuity not indcluded" when you promote it.

That sounds like a great system but we don't get that many requests for massage so I just figured out the tip and added it to the rate and charge the guest. They use our table so while the guest is comfy and snoozing away they can tiptoe out and leave them in peace. Dont' want to distrurb them to sit up and sign anything and have to figure out a tip. We keep $20 since they are using our table and oils and don't have to haul their table. They are perfectly happy with this system so works for me!

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I would never ask for a discount or expect one. I'm very comfortable offering an exchange if both parties would use it. We have a wonderful innkeeper getaway program with our state association. Each inn chooses whether they want to participate. If you participate, you can make your own decision on when you would be able to house an innkeeper and a very small amount is paid to both the innkeeper and the state association.

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I have never had an innkeeper ask for a discount.  My innmates, I don't want them to pay we can do a trade, night for night, that is one perk we have in this business.  In fact the innmates who have stayed with us are far to generous, I want them to get the treat, but it always ends up being back on me! Thank you, you know who you are. Smiling

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I tip because I know how hard the work actually is.

As for discounting, I don't ask for one and I don't take one, either. I do the same thing with family, I don't see why I should be getting a discount, they work just as hard for me and they have a right to a profit. (I know, I'm weird).

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I tip because I know how hard the work actually is.

As for discounting, I don't ask for one and I don't take one, either. I do the same thing with family, I don't see why I should be getting a discount, they work just as hard for me and they have a right to a profit. (I know, I'm weird).

I won't ask for a discount unless...it's a really large inn, it's high-priced and off season. Otherwise, I stay where I can afford. If offered, I accept a discount because I know I wouldn't offer one unless I wanted to so I assume other people are the same way. And then I would return that favor to those innkeepers if they wanted to stay here.

I've been a few places I'm glad I paid full freight because I would never want those people here on a discount, or at all. And I wouldn't want to think I owed someone something down the line when it was such an awful stay.

We've run across innkeepers who do this as a hobby. Not the business, but seeing how many places they can stay for free or very reduced rates.

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We had a hobbiest once ask me what I do with the rest of my day, after I have spent my 15 minutes cleaning the rooms.... I know what I do... I make up lists of places to never stay!

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I have been blessed with the B & Bs I have stayed in. They are usually innmates or members of my assoc. I do not exactly leave a tip - I try to leave enough to at least cover the expense of my stay because I WANT to. I have a rate for innmates and assoc members - it is Thank you, and I do not expect or want them to leave anything but memories of a great visit. IF I stayed at an "unknown" B & B, I would leave a tip.

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When we owned the biz, I did tip most of the time at B&Bs when I traveled and I still do when I stay at B&Bs/inns.  I didn't realize until I was on some B&B forums that owners might expect a tip, that was a new concept to me.  But, I don't tip for inferior service or accommodations that need attention at any type of lodging property.  That wouldn't support the meaning of a "tip".

I don't understand why some folks here feel like they can't sleep in late at a B&B.  We had people do that here occasionally and that was fine by me.  They would let me know that they weren't having breakfast if they wanted to sleep in past our serving time.   And, they might not get housekeeping service if they were still in their rooms.  They'd get turn-down service in the evening with trash emptied and wet towel removal and some fresh linens. 

I wanted everyone who stayed with us to use our amenities!  That's what they were here for.....

 

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We never expect tips, but it seems that someone who knows how hard the work is and compliments the efforts, would do just that. Or, write a nice review! Something to help out another innkeeper.

Maybe not writing a bad review is all I can hope for. Eye-wink

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Madeleine wrote:

Maybe not writing a bad review is all I can hope for. Eye-wink

Tipping for B&B's is pretty unusual in he UK. We've probably received 2 tips this year. I think a good revue is the least with can expect.

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We never expect tips, but it seems that someone who knows how hard the work is and compliments the efforts, would do just that. Or, write a nice review! Something to help out another innkeeper.

Maybe not writing a bad review is all I can hope for. Eye-wink

According to someone who lurks on this forum and uses it as fodder to write negative articles about the bad innkeepers here, apparently if you write a review for another inn, and you know that innkeeper you are a cheater and a low life.  I personally think that review is quote possibly the most useful of the bunch from that innkeepers perspective, as they see things the average guest does not, and might bring attention to it for future guests!  vs "Nice host, great breakfast"  I like to mention places to visit and other little tidbits in my reviews like "Did you know they are the closest Inn to such and such?"  

and, it is my prerogative to write a review, as I am a guest. If I won the stay in a contest, if I swapped a night for night, or arrived on a gift certificate for my bday, it is my prerogative to write that review.  This is for the person who reads the forum and thinks we are stinky innkeepers and that we "leverage" reviews, which is to falsify a review, in their opinion. 

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Madeleine wrote:

We never expect tips, but it seems that someone who knows how hard the work is and compliments the efforts, would do just that. Or, write a nice review! Something to help out another innkeeper.

Maybe not writing a bad review is all I can hope for. Eye-wink

According to someone who lurks on this forum and uses it as fodder to write negative articles about the bad innkeepers here, apparently if you write a review for another inn, and you know that innkeeper you are a cheater and a low life.  I personally think that review is quote possibly the most useful of the bunch from that innkeepers perspective, as they see things the average guest does not, and might bring attention to it for future guests!  vs "Nice host, great breakfast"  I like to mention places to visit and other little tidbits in my reviews like "Did you know they are the closest Inn to such and such?"  

and, it is my prerogative to write a review, as I am a guest. If I won the stay in a contest, if I swapped a night for night, or arrived on a gift certificate for my bday, it is my prerogative to write that review.  This is for the person who reads the forum and thinks we are stinky innkeepers and that we "leverage" reviews, which is to falsify a review, in their opinion. 

What planet is that person on to think that an innkeeper who stays at a b&b, whether they are familiar with the owners or not is unethical to write a review of their experience? HOGWASH. I truly believe that no one here would write a review that didn't reflect their true opinion of their stay.

People should look at online reviews as a guideline and to give them insite to what a stay at that specific lodging is going to be like. Whether one or two reviews come from people also in the same industry doesn't make it fake or unethical. What's unethical, is the way that person goes about slamming others that think differently than they do. You know what they say about glass houses.

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Madeleine wrote:

We never expect tips, but it seems that someone who knows how hard the work is and compliments the efforts, would do just that. Or, write a nice review! Something to help out another innkeeper.

Maybe not writing a bad review is all I can hope for. Eye-wink

According to someone who lurks on this forum and uses it as fodder to write negative articles about the bad innkeepers here, apparently if you write a review for another inn, and you know that innkeeper you are a cheater and a low life.  I personally think that review is quote possibly the most useful of the bunch from that innkeepers perspective, as they see things the average guest does not, and might bring attention to it for future guests!  vs "Nice host, great breakfast"  I like to mention places to visit and other little tidbits in my reviews like "Did you know they are the closest Inn to such and such?"  

and, it is my prerogative to write a review, as I am a guest. If I won the stay in a contest, if I swapped a night for night, or arrived on a gift certificate for my bday, it is my prerogative to write that review.  This is for the person who reads the forum and thinks we are stinky innkeepers and that we "leverage" reviews, which is to falsify a review, in their opinion. 

What planet is that person on to think that an innkeeper who stays at a b&b, whether they are familiar with the owners or not is unethical to write a review of their experience? HOGWASH. I truly believe that no one here would write a review that didn't reflect their true opinion of their stay.

People should look at online reviews as a guideline and to give them insite to what a stay at that specific lodging is going to be like. Whether one or two reviews come from people also in the same industry doesn't make it fake or unethical. What's unethical, is the way that person goes about slamming others that think differently than they do. You know what they say about glass houses.

I think, of all people to write a review, that an innkeeper would write one that is more true than a regular traveler as well.

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Anyone who stays at any lodging property has the right to write a review.  Anyone who says differently is being ridiculous.

I write a review for every place that I stay and it's an honest review of my experience.

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I always review as I am working on my trip adviser badges but I would never give a good review if it wasn't true. For example we stayed at a B&B a couple of weeks ago and I stated that it is more a holiday place than a business travellers place as they serve breakfast later. its not a criticism its a fact and therefore business people would be better off somewhere else that did an early breakfast where as holiday people appreciate the lie in.

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And the owners probably wouldn't complain either. We do late breakfast for the same reason, so having to get up early for a business mans breakfast is at pita.

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I ALWAYS write a review. I have one to write - but I have to wait for her to list on T A. I am not about to list her if she does not want to list.

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I asked because I find innkeepers don't tip. Just curious to find some reasons for that. They may or may not know how hard the work is, maybe the hire it all out. Just think it's strange.

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 We typically stay at hotels when we travel - as BD said, I want to sleep in OR I want to head to the beach for an early swim. 

The tip amount depends on the service we received no matter where we stay - hotel or B&B. 

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Mostly we don't stay at b&bs. We want to sleep in, not have to get up for brekkie at a specific time and be a bit more annonymous.  If we stay at a b&b where we know the innkeeper, then we tell them not to bother making breakfast, and typically we won't use the robes, extra amenities, etc because we don't want them to work so hard. Also, it's usually an exchange or reduced room rate and we'll leave a nice tip.

 

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...and if they know I am an innkeeper EVEN MORESO!

Yeah you got that right.

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It depends on the circumstances and the level of service just like anywhere else.  

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