Dispensers and Bity Bottles?

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I know we have discussed the dispenser vs small bottles of shampoo, et all for bath amenities.  But after a cruise through the older posts I couldn't find this one.  Six of the nine baths in my target property have (or will have) both a tub and shower separate from one another, making it a four piece bath.

I want to go with the dispensers (with large type for those of us that need glasses to read the little labels) in the shower with shampoo, conditioner, body wash. 

It has been my experience that one using a jetted tub is not in there to get clean.  They aren't going to be washing their hair, or other shower type activities.  So what would you recommend as an appropriate bath amenity for the "spa" area, given the dispenser is in the shower? 

Bath salt?

Small fancy moisturizing bar soap?

 

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Weaver wrote:

I know we have discussed the dispenser vs small bottles of shampoo, et all for bath amenities.  But after a cruise through the older posts I couldn't find this one.  Six of the nine baths in my target property have (or will have) both a tub and shower separate from one another, making it a four piece bath.

I want to go with the dispensers (with large type for those of us that need glasses to read the little labels) in the shower with shampoo, conditioner, body wash. 

It has been my experience that one using a jetted tub is not in there to get clean.  They aren't going to be washing their hair, or other shower type activities.  So what would you recommend as an appropriate bath amenity for the "spa" area, given the dispenser is in the shower? 

Bath salt?

Small fancy moisturizing bar soap?

 

At the hotel I worked at, they had a room with a Jacuzzi tub that was separate from the bathroom.  In the bathroom they put the shampoo/conditioner/hand lotion/soap etc.  For the Jacuzzi they placed a bathmat over the tub and a bar of soap on top.

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It has been my experience that one using a jetted tub is not in there to get clean.  They aren't going to be washing their hair, or other shower type activities.  So what would you recommend as an appropriate bath amenity for the "spa" area, given the dispenser is in the shower? 

After I soak, I like to get clean... wash my hair, etc.  Regardless of what other amenities you put (salts, etc.) I vote for keeping the standard three (shampoo/conditioner/body wash) there, too.

We have dispensers and they are awesome.  No mess, no waste.  I have one in my own shower.  They're attached with silicone.  In five years, only one got knocked off and broken, and it was easily replaced as they are at the box stores.

BUT, my guest amenity baskets also have Head and Shoulders and Irish Spring available for anyone who prefers them.  The Irish Spring gets used quite a bit.

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Weaver wrote:
It has been my experience that one using a jetted tub is not in there to get clean.  They aren't going to be washing their hair, or other shower type activities.  So what would you recommend as an appropriate bath amenity for the "spa" area, given the dispenser is in the shower? 

After I soak, I like to get clean... wash my hair, etc.  Regardless of what other amenities you put (salts, etc.) I vote for keeping the standard three (shampoo/conditioner/body wash) there, too.

We have dispensers and they are awesome.  No mess, no waste.  I have one in my own shower.  They're attached with silicone.  In five years, only one got knocked off and broken, and it was easily replaced as they are at the box stores.

BUT, my guest amenity baskets also have Head and Shoulders and Irish Spring available for anyone who prefers them.  The Irish Spring gets used quite a bit.

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I would check with your tub manufacter to ensure that shampoo won't clog the jets. Bubble bath does. We don't keep anything by the tub - no shampoo, no soap, just the aromatherapy pillows. Nobody has complained and I have not found any of our soaps by the tub. I think our folks go in the shower after.

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 You have to be careful to use a product made for a jetted tub. We like http://www.insparation.com/

They make cool bath aromatherapy thingies. We like the little colored packets and put them out and they get used and are very affordable.

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We like http://www.insparation.com/ They make cool bath aromatherapy thingies.

Tip of the day, Riki!!! Thanks!

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We get "Bath Grains" from Greenwich Bay. Safe for tubs and no one (in WV or any other state) has reportedly gotten high on them.

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The innkeepers are beginning to get grouchy. Good thing we're almost to the end of the busy season. ;-)

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The innkeepers are beginning to get grouchy. Good thing we're almost to the end of the busy season. ;-)

The busy grumpy season you mean? It's certainly not the busy tourist season!

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The busy grumpy season you mean? It's certainly not the busy tourist season!

Just a little try at irony on my part, meaning to indicate the opposite: that if those other innkeepers (not you, of course) are this grumpy now, at the end of the slow season, just think how grumpy they will be by leaf peeping season!

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The busy grumpy season you mean? It's certainly not the busy tourist season!

Just a little try at irony on my part, meaning to indicate the opposite: that if those other innkeepers (not you, of course) are this grumpy now, at the end of the slow season, just think how grumpy they will be by leaf peeping season!

Har har- 'not you, of course'. Oh you're a card you are.

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Arkansawyer wrote:

The innkeepers are beginning to get grouchy. Good thing we're almost to the end of the busy season. ;-)

The busy grumpy season you mean? It's certainly not the busy tourist season!

Grumpy, who us? Now the young man that should be grumpy was sitting at the breakfast table this morning on his anniversary while his wife spoke on her cell phone the entire breakfast (except to mimic to me  "I can't eat yoghurt I am lactose intolerant")

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Joey,

Is there a way to get prices of these products without haivng to make phone call? I have looked all over the site and I must be missing it.

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Blessings, call or email Gilchrist & Soames and a rep will get back to you and will send you a price sheet and samples, which is even better.

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Joey,

Is there a way to get prices of these products without haivng to make phone call? I have looked all over the site and I must be missing it.

Blessings!

Prices are generally not given on sites like G&S. You do have to call or email. Altho I was grumpy about getting an email from some 'unknown entity' (earlier post here), the folks at G&S are good people who can help you figure out which line of amenities is good for your place.

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blessings wrote:

Joey,

Is there a way to get prices of these products without haivng to make phone call? I have looked all over the site and I must be missing it.

Blessings!

You could e-mail them.

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OK, hoping this shows up in their 'Google alerts' cuz I've got something to say...NEVER send a business email with a vague subject line to someone who doesn't have a clue who you are. This went right in the trash and got labeled as spam before I realized who it was from.

I like their products but had not a clue who Momo was and assumed it was spam.

You MUST, as a business person, insure that your COMPANY name is shown NOT your personal name. Maybe everyone at G&S knows who you are but I think you're a spammer. Tilt. Game over.

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OK, hoping this shows up in their 'Google alerts' cuz I've got something to say...NEVER send a business email with a vague subject line to someone who doesn't have a clue who you are. This went right in the trash and got labeled as spam before I realized who it was from.

I like their products but had not a clue who Momo was and assumed it was spam.

You MUST, as a business person, insure that your COMPANY name is shown NOT your personal name. Maybe everyone at G&S knows who you are but I think you're a spammer. Tilt. Game over.

You mean cuz it says MOMO WILSON   What is your shade of green?  as the from and subject and wonder why people get ticked off at spam. yes. 

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Exactly. Not a clue who that is or what kind of 'green' they're talking about!

BTW, got an email today with 'Mattress Sale!!!' in the subject line. It was a 'unique' opportunity to help out an area high school by buying our mattresses thru them as a fund raiser. Half hour later I got another one from another school. Yeah, that marketer certainly sold those schools on the 'unique' opportunity.

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Just deleted this one. It was rightly in my junk box.

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I haven't seen it in a while, but there was one hotel supply company that had really nice units where you sort of hung a dispenser on a peg. So it was closed. It closed in a way that the guest couldn't easily take it. And it looked classy. I just can't remember who made them. I see so many web pages daily.

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I'm going with bath salts for the jet tubs. You don't want bubble bath, they say, because the tubs churn up too many bubbles and overflow.

I'm putting dispensers in the showers, too, but will also have bar soap and shampoo bottles available for those who hate dispensers!

I'm hoping most will use the dispensers, though, since it saves me money.

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I'm going with bath salts for the jet tubs. You don't want bubble bath, they say, because the tubs churn up too many bubbles and overflow.

I'm putting dispensers in the showers, too, but will also have bar soap and shampoo bottles available for those who hate dispensers!

I'm hoping most will use the dispensers, though, since it saves me money.

If you're going to use the jetted tubs that are the jacuzzi type with an intake screen, you don't want to use bath salts. We don't allow the salts here because the salts will get sucked up by the intake before they desolve and clog up the intake and your motor can burn out.

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I bought Sanijet tubs. No pumps, no pipes, no problems (even I don't believe that last one, but maybe I can say fewer problems).

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Arks, definitely no bubble bath!  I had some folks that used the bath gel in the tubs and fortunately it didn't foam up much (I had tested it myself). 

These are not the dispensers by G&S we had at the resort we just visited, but these are less objectionable to me as a hater of dispensers! 

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The main problem I would have with these is the guest constantly pushing down on the dispenser. Because they are attached to the shower wall with really sticky tape and not bolted in place, it would certainly seem more likely that someone could 'push' it off the wall.

We've got the kind that you push in a BIG button, so less downward stress on the mechanism.

We get ours from here: http://www.dispenser.com/ and they are guaranteed for life. (Not sure if that is still true, I didn't look over the website.) If we have any parts that need replacing, they send them for the cost of the shipping.

I will now dispense the most important information you need to know...they MUST absolutely be mounted in the proper location in the shower. THINK long and hard about how you move around in the shower. Stand in the dry shower and pretend you are soaping up and washing your hair. Where are your elbows? You see where this is going. Do not put the dispenser in what is necessarily the easiest location for you the cleaner or refiller to get at it. Put it where the guests' elbows will not knock it off the wall.

I bought one of these for myself at a chain homewares store and the thing leaked from the get go. Spend a little more money and go with a respected brand name that does this as their business, not just another item in a huge store.

 

 

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The curves model is the one I have. They are the ones I got from the get-go - Dispenser brand. I had 2 chambers at the sink and 3 chambers at the tub. I bought another 3 chamber for the new showers. The one now by the tub in the new bathroom I do not fill due to leak (and it is so close to the wall getting to that glob of goo is almost impossible unless a contortionist or have beter knees than I do) and the 2 chamber in the original bathroom is there because I am afraid of that it will do to the wall to rip it off. I now have a pretty pump bottle of soap and a bottle of aloe lotion on the sink.

The placement of the dispenser in the big (60 inch shower) is perfect. Wish the dispenser in the shower in the Gillum Room was located in the same place. Both showers have the "seats" at each end. The dispenser should be mounted on the wall between the 2 seats. In the Gillum shower, the leaking dispenser comes down on the seat - BAD location.

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Madeleine wrote:

Because they are attached to the shower wall with really sticky tape and not bolted in place, it would certainly seem more likely that someone could 'push' it off the wall.

I wouldn't consider getting one that couldn't be bolted to the shower wall. Don't trust that tape.

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Put it where the guests' elbows will not knock it off the wall.

I had that problem with my own. Twice I hit it with an elbow and a whole container of soap went down the drain. I finally took the time to put a screw in it so it can't separate from the wall mount unless the screw is removed.

I mounted mine above the shower faucet so that gives it a little protection, but also means it's right under the water spout so at the same time I pump a hand full of soap, I get a hand full of water too. Yes indeed, mounting location is an important consideration!

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These are not the dispensers by G&S we had at the resort we just visited, but these are less objectionable to me as a hater of dispensers! 

Those look just like the ones I really liked at a B&B where we stayed in Holmfirth, England, a couple of years ago. I took down the brand info from them and searched for them after I got home, but the only source I found said they didn't ship outside of England.

So THANKS!!! I have been looking for those for 2 years for precisely the reason that they aren't as objectionable as the usual kind.

Below are the ones by Simple Human I was planning to use if I couldn't find the English ones. I have them in my home shower and they're very nice, and well made, but I like the English ones more.

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Samster wrote:

These are not the dispensers by G&S we had at the resort we just visited, but these are less objectionable to me as a hater of dispensers! 

Those look just like the ones I really liked at a B&B where we stayed in Holmfirth, England, a couple of years ago. I took down the brand info from them and searched for them after I got home, but the only source I found said they didn't ship outside of England.

So THANKS!!! I have been looking for those for 2 years for precisely the reason that they aren't as objectionable as the usual kind.

Below are the ones by Simple Human I was planning to use if I couldn't find the English ones. I have them in my home shower and they're very nice, and well made, but I like the English ones more.

I am toying with the thought of changing out to the ones Samster showed. The one problem i have had with some of my dispensers is the button not returning properly or the guest mashing it, but it leaked. I have 2 chambers I no longer use. Pump from the top is much better. I just need to find out how much they cost.

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Arks, I wish I had taken a photo of the G&S system at the resort where we just stayed, but that was not high on my list.  They were very secure, smaller, and pretty nice looking and had a label.

Weaver, I have an objection to the dispensers as a former innkeeper as well.  I wouldn't like cleaning around them and most aren't labeled with the ingredients, which is very helpful to guests.  Plus, some have anchoring systems (as Maddy mentioned) that are not all that secure.

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Samster, that is my real issue, cleaning and stability.

The ones I have looked at all are secured with tape. Seems to me double stick tape even industrial tape just won't hold up against rough guests and water.

 

 

 

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Weaver, as a guest at a B&B I had a dispenser come flying off the wall while I was in the shower.  It was not a fun experience as the liquid goo when everywhere.  It only cemented (pun intended) my hatred of them.  And yes, they can be more eco-friendly (although we recycled all our used amenities containers here), but they are definitely cheaper in cost.  So economics do come into play with the dispensers.  You can also find more eco-friendly packaging in some of the amenity lines - I think G&S "Beekind" is one of them. 

Best of luck figuring this out.  I still would not have dispensers here at our B&B, except for antiseptic hand soap (which I had in addition to a facial soap at the sink). 

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Weaver, as a guest at a B&B I had a dispenser come flying off the wall while I was in the shower.  It was not a fun experience as the liquid goo when everywhere.  It only cemented (pun intended) my hatred of them. 

On the whole, I've had even more trouble with bar soap, dropping it while my eyes are closed to keep the shampoo out, feeling around on the floor trying to find it without slipping on it. Bumping my head on the faucet when I raise back up.

Maybe I should just give up on soap entirely, and use that steamer on myself.

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Weaver, as a guest at a B&B I had a dispenser come flying off the wall while I was in the shower.  It was not a fun experience as the liquid goo when everywhere.  It only cemented (pun intended) my hatred of them. 

On the whole, I've had even more trouble with bar soap, dropping it while my eyes are closed to keep the shampoo out, feeling around on the floor trying to find it without slipping on it. Bumping my head on the faucet when I raise back up.

Maybe I should just give up on soap entirely, and use that steamer on myself.

Save the salmon.

Don't bathe at all.

That is what is really green. No soap, no chemical down the drains and into the environment. Close the inns. 

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Weaver wrote:

Samster, that is my real issue, cleaning and stability.

The ones I have looked at all are secured with tape. Seems to me double stick tape even industrial tape just won't hold up against rough guests and water.

 

 

The ones I have were installed in 2003. Still stuck on the wall in spite of the numerous times the dispenser has been knocked off the wall mount. This may be the year we attempt to detach one of them and reinstall it in a better location.

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I just need to find out how much they cost.

I've contacted them to set up what they call a "hotelier" account. Once I get price info, I'll let you know.

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Arks, definitely no bubble bath!  I had some folks that used the bath gel in the tubs and fortunately it didn't foam up much (I had tested it myself). 

These are not the dispensers by G&S we had at the resort we just visited, but these are less objectionable to me as a hater of dispensers! 

Those are not objectionable at all.  The dispensers are more a eco-friendly choice rather than an economical one.

My only heart burn with dispensers from a guest perspective is you can't take the little bity bottles home, cause there aren't any. 

 

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I had 5 spa type bath tubs at my inn and people did use the soap and shampoo at the tubs.  There were plenty of folks that enjoyed just luxuriating in the big tubs.  I had guests here that were here for athletic events that told me how much they liked the big tubs after returning from the event.  Also, I had several single business travelers that were here for longer stays and told me how much they enjoyed using the large tubs every day vs the shower.  That being said, what I did here was I had a bar of high end Gilchrest & Soames at both the shower and tub.  I had a presentation of the shower gel, shampoo, conditioner, and bath salts (approved for the tubs I had) at the tubs.  Then, people could use the amenities at either location, but didn't have to swap the soap back and forth. 

I'm really against the dispensers, but if you feel that you have to have them, I'd offer a high end bath soap at the tub, along with some kind of bath salts or whatever that works for a good soak that's approved for the tubs you have. 

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 I don't like the dispensers because as a guest I have no idea what people might use in them. I like to know what soap and shampoo I am getting. It is just too iffy. I saw an innkeeper pour shampoo out of a used bottle into another used bottle. These were small bottles. I would never put used shampoo into another used one. I throw them away. So what is to say someone wouldn't put dish soap into the dispensers. We would hope not but never know. I really just take my own shampoo when I travel to be safe. 

 

As an innkeeper I don't want to mess with filling them or worry that they will come off when a guest is using them. 

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Bath salts are illegal here. I do not know about other places, but they have been made illegal because they have been used to make meth.

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Leave it to the hillbillies to ruin a good soak for the rest of us.  At least farther south they are still legal. 

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Sorry to disillusion you, but the hillbillys had to "larn hit " from them ferinners because we were not gentry enough to be into bath salts. Quite frankly this hillbilly has never used bath salts - soaking takes time, a luxury most of us here do not have. We are too busy going from job to job trying to "get by". Even when I was in Illinois, time was a premium item - plus with 6 kids and one bathroom, no one spent much time hogging the bathroom.

This is one time the rule of He is an SOB but he is MY SOB and only I get to call him an SOB gets invoked. We get labeled as unhappy, unhealthy, discontented idjits but we had one thing I have not seen in a lot of places I have traveled to. It is called PRIDE. Come here and just about every other person will be wearing SOMETHING that has West Virginia on it. It is a place that we may leave because of looking for work, but most of us have it in our blood and cannot wait to get back. My DH is a convert - he does not want to ever go back to live in Illinois - will only do so if I die first as he cannot manage alone. Sorry for going off. We were just adjudged, once again, as being #50 on something. Hey Arkie, you guys were down at the bottom of the pile with us, KY, even Ohio got a bit of it. I think this time we were dissatisfied with our lot in life or some dmn-fool thing like that. Rip me all you want, but do NOT rip my State or its people because you will not find people more willing to help when help is needed, nor, for the most part, harder workers when they get work.

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It is called PRIDE. Come here and just about every other person will be wearing SOMETHING that has West Virginia on it.

K., you won't like this article I ran across yesterday! I wasn't going to tell you about it, but if you raised 6 kids and DH, I know you can take it Smiling

America's Most Miserable States

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It is called PRIDE. Come here and just about every other person will be wearing SOMETHING that has West Virginia on it.

K., you won't like this article I ran across yesterday! I wasn't going to tell you about it, but if you raised 6 kids and DH, I know you can take it Smiling

America's Most Miserable States

THAT was it!!!  We get slammed so much it is hard to remember what it was this time!

The Statewide talk show interviewed them today about it. Some of the questions they ask in their 10 minute survey were bogus to me. "Where do you see yourself in 10 years? Will you be better off?"  Heck, just maintaining staus quo is good. Ask southern WV these questions now that the mines are being shut down or the power plant workers at the 3 plants near me that are now scheduled to be shut down in September due to impossible new regs..... If someone asked me to take a 10 min. survey I would hang up - especially if it was automated - do not know if this was, but I do not have 10 min to waste on that stuff.

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Shame on who taught them!  I love that state, one of my favorites actually, some of the best roads for killing an afternoon on the back of a bike.

In fact until I get my project off the ground I will be working in your state starting in about 8 weeks.

 

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Where?

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Where?

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Eastern Panhandle. You will be near Harpers Ferry and Charles Town.

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Bath salts are illegal here. I do not know about other places, but they have been made illegal because they have been used to make meth.

 

Yes I watched a program on TV a few weeks ago and people are now snorting bath salts and getting high off them since they are so easy to get.  It is a new thing going on and will probably be hearing more about it.

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