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I want to comment on my recent (last few months) experience with sheets.

Last weekend I stayed at a large (11 guestroom) B&B and couldn't believe it when I pulled back the bedspread that first night. The 100% cotton sheets looked like someone had been sleeping on them a week, although I pray they were fresh and clean. Wrinkles, folds, just horrible. Ugly.

On the contrary, I've been sleeping for 3 months now on synthetic microfiber sheets and can attest that, after washing and no ironing, I have never seen even a hint of a wrinkle. Smooth as a baby's bottom. And the feel, as you slide your neked leg around on these things, is pure luxury. I have seen no negatives regarding these sheets. They are not hot. I have found no hairs embedded in them. They are, in my opinion, the sheets God intended us to use.

If you iron your cotton sheets, God bless you and keep it up as long as you can hold out. But if you don't want to iron, GO MICROFIBER TWILL!!

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This is why I iron.  Not one person will ever comment on the nicely pressed sheets, but if I don't every one of them will think exactly as you did, and likely never say a word!

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This is why I iron.  Not one person will ever comment on the nicely pressed sheets, but if I don't every one of them will think exactly as you did, and likely never say a word!

Good point. Just because nobody comments on the ironing doesn't mean it's not doing you a lot of good.

We do a lot of things nobody ever comments on, but they'd sure comment, negatively, if we DIDNT do them!

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Twice I hired help at this B&B. First gal put the sheets on sideways and destroyed the elastic. Second gal put king sheets on a queen bed. Yeah talk about ruffled oversized sheets!

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Twice I hired help at this B&B. First gal put the sheets on sideways and destroyed the elastic. Second gal put king sheets on a queen bed. Yeah talk about ruffled oversized sheets!

I had a helper girl last summer that I showed at least eight times how to make a bed...she never could get the hang of it.  My other girl got it, but didn't like doing it at all.  I didn't realize it was so complicated!!

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Twice I hired help at this B&B. First gal put the sheets on sideways and destroyed the elastic. Second gal put king sheets on a queen bed. Yeah talk about ruffled oversized sheets!

I had a helper girl last summer that I showed at least eight times how to make a bed...she never could get the hang of it.  My other girl got it, but didn't like doing it at all.  I didn't realize it was so complicated!!

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My guess? It was her way of telling you she didn't want to make a bed!

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My guess? It was her way of telling you she didn't want to make a bed!

Bet she doesn't do windows, either.

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My guess? It was her way of telling you she didn't want to make a bed!

Bet she doesn't do windows, either.

I think she was clinically depressed.  Things just didn't stick.  I told her to clean a room and went up and found her cleaning the wrong one.  She couldn't even tell it was already done.  On the other hand, she cleaned my gutters and did a great job with my lawn, which was definitely her favorite job. 

The other girl, the one who got it but didn't like them much, cleaned every window in the house.  She didn't like doing them, but she did them all.

They were training through the Workforce Investment Act Program... I was just happy to have any help at all.

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Ah, she needed to be outside then. I used to have a housekeeper who was always trying to get outside to weed or water the plants.

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In the UK its worce as they at home have a duvet ie just put the cover on it and a fitted sheet. No presentation or effort required especially with a no iron sheet and duvet cover which most have or don't bother ironing. They have no idea what to do with a flat sheet.

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Last weekend I stayed at a large (11 guestroom) B&B and couldn't believe it when I pulled back the bedspread that first night. The 100% cotton sheets looked like someone had been sleeping on them a week, although I pray they were fresh and clean. Wrinkles, folds, just horrible. Ugly.

I was just thinking about this again, and have decided the cotton is not the main part of the problem. The main problem is that their fitted sheet size doesn't match their mattress thickness. The sheets were made for a thicker mattress, leading to the "folds" I mentioned.

I think it's critical to do the math, know the depth of mattress you have, and make sure the sheets fit it tightly. If the fitted sheets are too big for the bed, they'll look bad even if you iron them.

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When sheets were made in the USA (I wish they still were) you bought sheets that had a fabric edge on the top and bottom that made the ends snap tightly. But when people wanted cheaper and cheaper sheets, the overseas manufacturers put elastic all around and since then, you have to tuck sheets in.

Sheets that are cotton generally don't have as much stretch as sheets with poly/cotton and therefore snap better. But unless they top was made to fit tight, you won't have a taut top. You need a sheet that is made exactly to the specs on the top and let's face it, specifications and "cheap" don't go together.

PS: The chemical treatment for wrinkle-free isn't perfect and it lasts about 50 washings. By then the material should have settled and be essentially no-iron, but the tautness on the bed is a major part of this. And remember that material will stretch in the middle where it isn't held by the corners, because the centre edges no longer pull.

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The problem with sheets (and we do use them)- you buy sheets for an 'x' depth bed but all of your beds were made by different mfg'ers and they're all different depths. The sheets themselves are all slightly different. They shrink. They stretch.

I have a brand new set for my own really ancient (thus not too deep) mattress and they don't fit after washing them. I had to fold the mattress up to get the fitted sheet on.

Sheets will make you crazy.

If the sheets are too big for the mattress it's pretty simple to tug them tight and tuck the excess under the mattress. No alternative for too small.

My mattresses were mostly made by the same company. They are not the same size even tho I order the same mattress every time! Drives me spare when I get to the room with the slightly larger mattress and I have in hand the slightly smaller sheet set! And don't get me started on trying to get a quilt to fit!

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Sheets will make you crazy.

Spoken a like a pro Eye-wink

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If the sheets are too big for the mattress it's pretty simple to tug them tight and tuck the excess under the mattress. No alternative for too small.

You're right there, though I'm not too sure the tucking will hold up through a night of tossing and turning. Comphy says their elastic is so good it will pull the fitted sheet tight even on a too-thin mattress. I can confirm that this is NOT so, and no amount of tucking has made my bottom sheet look as tight and smooth as I'd like. I'm going to have to get a thicker mattress to use the 18" Comphy sheets.

If the sheets are too big, my thought would be to look for a mattress topper of the right thickness to make things just right.

If the sheets are too small, yes, big problem. Must get bigger sheets, or abandon fitted sheets, or something.

I'm just convinced that it's really important to have things look perfect when that bed is turned down. The look of the folds and wrinkles of the bottom sheet at that B&B we recently visited still haunt me! Just not acceptable!

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Look at it this way- as long as the sheets look good getting into the bed you're all set. The messier the bed in the morning, well, the more fun had the night before in my opinion! No one cares what the bed looks like in the morning. But that initial impression is important.

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I'm just convinced that it's really important to have things look perfect when that bed is turned down. The look of the folds and wrinkles of the bottom sheet at that B&B we recently visited still haunt me! Just not acceptable!

The name of the game is BED and Breakfast to do either with less than a best effort (we can't be perfect) would be futile.  The bed imvho must be as inviting as the breakfast is appetizing. 

One thing I have found that does help with a thinner mattress are the elastic sheet keepers, the ones that clip on the edge of the sheets and go diagonally across the corner under the mattress.  I hate sloppy bottom sheets. 

 

 

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Sheet clips can help.  They have a groove where you slide the sheet side over the piping on the mattress.  It holds the sheet sides tight but is difficult to use over mattress covers!

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Sheet clips can help.  They have a groove where you slide the sheet side over the piping on the mattress.  It holds the sheet sides tight but is difficult to use over mattress covers!

I will tell ya right now, when we bought this place the po's used those, I believe because the sheets were old and stretched out (no elastic left) and what they DID DO is tear the sheets. I think they are just awful. (Sorry but I do!) 

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I had a mattress cover that did not want to stay on a particular mattress. I got the elastic pieces with a clip on each end (like the old garter belt clips - cannot think of a better description, sorry you young whippersnappers will not know what I am talking about). The cover was so think it was hard to get them on it, but they kept it on the mattress by forming a triangle at the corners. That would work for "fitted" sheets too.

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I had a mattress cover that did not want to stay on a particular mattress. I got the elastic pieces with a clip on each end (like the old garter belt clips - cannot think of a better description, sorry you young whippersnappers will not know what I am talking about). The cover was so think it was hard to get them on it, but they kept it on the mattress by forming a triangle at the corners. That would work for "fitted" sheets too.

I had those here too, like a short garter belt. But they TORE the mattress protector. These are things I had to learn the hard way. Much better to just get the dang sheets that fit the bed! SO MUCH STUFFING AROUND WITH THOSE!! 

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I hated them too. Got rid of that mattress cover.

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If this is a double post, I apologize.  My computer had a burp.

Anyways, for those who like micro fiber sheets the website http://www.1saleaday.com has Christopher Adams 1600 TC Egyptian Cotton sheet sets in full, queen, king or Calif. king for $19.99 plus a small shipping charge.  There are quite a few colors to select from.

As the name of the website implies, this sale is only good today April 5, 2012.

Hope this helps anyone interested.

WARNING:  This website may become addictive. 

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Colleen848 wrote:

If this is a double post, I apologize.  My computer had a burp.

Anyways, for those who like micro fiber sheets the website http://www.1saleaday.com has Christopher Adams 1600 TC Egyptian Cotton sheet sets in full, queen, king or Calif. king for $19.99 plus a small shipping charge.  There are quite a few colors to select from.

As the name of the website implies, this sale is only good today April 5, 2012.

Hope this helps anyone interested.

WARNING:  This website may become addictive. 

I did not look at 1600 TC Egyptian cotton sheets as being microfiber. I ordered a set to see what I would get. They are labeled 100% microfiber but the label on the front of the package says 1700 TC cotton. $20 was OK for microfiber. They are a bit wrinkled - but I did not get them out of the dryer the second it stopped (rain predicted so did not hang them on the line).

So far, the web site has not shown me anything that interests me - but I do look.

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You may want to check these websites:

http://www.midnightbox.com (Not the greatest IMO)

http://www.justdeals.com (Can vary from kitchenwares to tools.  I bought a Rockwell Thickness Planer from them for $100. less than Amazon.  Shipping was minimal, I think $5.)

http://www.bradsdeals.com (they have a lot of magazine subscriptions for $5. a year with no shipping, pillows, glassware, etc.)

http://www.bensoutlet.com (Just a variety of stuff.  Purchased 2 articulating wall mounts for flat panel tvs that not only move out but angle for $39.99 a pc.)

Then there is http://www.woot.com (Sometimes you'll notice Amazon running specials from "their friends" at woot).

I have a lot more that I check frequently.  Amazon also runs lightning deals running during the day.  It changes everyday.

I live on a very fixed income and so I watch the deals closely.

Have fun.

 

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Thanks, but no thanks. I am not a shopper and do not spend unless I absolutely must. I checked out the sheets because I recently bought a second queen and if I did not like them it would be no loss since I could use them myself.

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 And have you tried them?  You know the saying"if it sounds too good to be true..it probably is"  Well that's what I  think about this. I wouldn't waste my money.

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I guess you just cranked me out because I ordered 2 sets in white.  I will let you know my honest opinion when I receive them.  Shipping is normally very quick.

No offense but your screen name suits you.  lol. GGRRrrr. Glad I'm out of reach.  Ha Ha

I understand your reluctance about things being too good to be true.

Therefore I should tell you I purchased a automatic coffee pot made by Cuisinart (which I think is a good product, you may disagree) which normally retailed in my area between $130. to $150.  I bought it for approx. $39.00.

Let you know when I get the sheets.  Of course, then it will be to late.

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No, I have not personaly tried theses sheets but I have ordered many things off of this website and have been absoulutely amazed at the quality.  Aslo, I have never had to pay sales tax.

They do have a return policy which is exceptional.

The deal sounds to good to be true because it only lasts 24 hrs. That's it.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

My favorite motto is "The biggest risk in life is never taking one".  You have nothing to lose if you tried them.

What?  You've never returned anything before.  Well, I am impressed!

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 As far as I can tell, there is a NO RETURN policy for this site, unless there is a defect.  So I guess you could say that the return policy is exceptional...but not my idea of a place I would ever shop.

Please correct me if I am mistaken....have you ever returned anything that you have bought at onesaleaday.com?

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My favorite motto is "The biggest risk in life is never taking one". 

Another innspiring quote for innkeepers.

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PS- if you buy things online you still have to pay the sales tax when you file your monthly business tax forms with the state.

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I am not open yet as a B&B so I do not have a tax I.D. that NYS excepts me to be a tax collector for them.

I asked my accountant about this many years ago (about 30) if I should apply for one.  She advised me not to bother.  Since I was only renting apts. I was only advised to allocate expenses as to 100, 2/3, 1/3 etc percentage along with depreciation of Capital Improvements tools, maintenance, et .... blah blah.  This is a "3 unit building".  That's why I have her.  I very much dislike that stuff.  Give me something I can build with my hands and use my imagination, then I understand.

Then again I am a so called "wheeler-dealer" when it comes to bartering to purchase antiques and what not for the upcoming B&B.  I have someone who I have purchased numerous items from that owns 2 local shops. He still is willing  to participate in the dickering aspect, accepts my payments w/o state tax and delivers it to me even carrying it upstairs.  What he does with his books is none of my business  Guess he knows if I feel the price is right I will buy and I'm sure he likes the sales..

Ooops.  Maybe I said to much.  Loose lips sink ships.

But, it  works for him and it works for me.

I have put off getting that tax exempt number for the fact that the state does not  expect it from me and in my current situation, everything is written onto the long form tax return anyways.

NYS has tried and is still trying to pass that law regarding online sales but to date it has not been passed.  Any business that has a physical presence in the state is obligated to collect sales tax.  Not sure why Amazon does but then again I don't know if there any sites in this state.  When I track packages the all seem to originate from Kentucky.

Once again, just my 2 cents.

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NYS has tried and is still trying to pass that law regarding online sales but to date it has not been passed.  Any business that has a physical presence in the state is obligated to collect sales tax.  Not sure why Amazon does but then again I don't know if there any sites in this state.  When I track packages the all seem to originate from Kentucky.

Once again, just my 2 cents.

Amazon collects the sales tax because NYS won that round. I really don't care if you pay your sales tax, collect lodging tax or not, just saying that it IS required, at least where I live. You are welcome to run your business legally or illegally, however you choose. Just offering advice so you stay ahead of the tax man. I'll shut up now, you seem to know whatever you need to from advice given 30 years ago.

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Believe me, I run nothing illegal.  Most of the time I misplace receipts I could have claimed.  Better for me as a buffer.

Apparently NYS did not win the entire round.  If you purchase a certain amount you can volunteer to pay the tax.

I thought you lived in NYS too.  They nickel and dime us to death.  Actually we are past the nickel and dime and on up into the dollars now.

Obviously my information is NOT 30 years old as I file returns every year and have asked my accountant exstensive questions about starting up a B&B. I did so because I was advised by the attorneys that won my case for SSD that I couldn't.  Don't know what they thought.  I'd be making a million bucks a year!  Just not ready to give up on life yet.  Didn't ask to be on SSD.  Good old GM made me apply, when I was turned down they required that I appeal.  When it was granted it I paid them back in full.  Felt like a 94 yr. old who had her car keys taken away from her.

I sense that many people here do not like "landlords".  When you live onsite this is not an absentee business either.

No, I don't have to make their beds, nor prepare their breakfast but I do have to listen to every nit picky thing they come up with on a daily basis.  No, they do not check in for a few days and then leave. Can't complain about the furnishings in my portion of the house.  But I've heard, can you rake the grass where you mowed the yard.  The kids are tracking it in the house.  I provide them with a door mat and an entry way with hooks to hang their coats and take off their shoes.  Oh, by the way, when you were mowing the grass with 20 mile wind gusts you got grass on my car!!!  Excuse me.  What God puts on God will take off.

Bartering has been around since civilization started.  It's a take it or leave it situation.

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 Concerning the title of this thread, i.e.  "for those who use sheets".....for those who don't    eeeew!

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Sheet advice (for those of you who use sheets)

ahem..... what else would we be using? Sleeping bags are a bit ugly on the mattresses - difficult to wash also.

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haha ... i thought that too. what else but sheets on the bed?

my own sheets right now are the wrong size. too big i guess. i must have bought the deep fitted ones by mistake and i wake and they are off the mattress. 

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gillumhouse wrote:

ahem..... what else would we be using?

As a good girl, you would not know this, K, but some of us are sipping...ahem...whisky as we write this stuff late at night Smiling

Witness my topic title that had to be changed because what seemed hilarious last night seemed offensive this morning!

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ahem..... what else would we be using?

As a good girl, you would not know this, K, but some of us are sipping...ahem...whisky as we write this stuff late at night Smiling

Witness my topic title that had to be changed because what seemed hilarious last night seemed offensive this morning!

A legend in your own mind Arks. There are a few who imbibe while on the forum in the evenings and confuse the heck out of us, and I am sure it was clear as can be when they typed it.  There better not be a hole cut in the floor beneath your desk, that is all I am sayin'... 

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I just had to tweek you - that is for not sharing the good stuff! You should have titled the other one Thumper!

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 I'm the low person in the pecking order at our B&B & not the regular day-to-day worker (mainly the marketing person)... but I get so aggitated when I see wrinkled sheets going on the beds.  I cannot seem to get into everyone's brain how important presentation is.  They figure the bed is clean, who cares if its wrinkled.  I've gone behind them & ironed pillowcases to rolled eyes...  I wish they would "get it"

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To each his own.  I have non-pillow top mattresses and find that there is almost too much excess fabric on the fitted sheets from com phy.  When I opened the B&B I bought 3 sheet sets that had fitted sheets entirely too snug, so I bought just fitted sheets to replace the too snug ones.  I don't like having to remove all the extra hair and lint and having to tuck in the sheets all around.  However, this does seem to decrease static for the guests.

On the PAII forum there is a thread that suggests there may also be some quality issues with their new manufacturer, but that the company has been good to replace any sheets that have had excessive pilling.

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Innkeep wrote:

I have non-pillow top mattresses and find that there is almost too much excess fabric on the fitted sheets from com phy. 

Yes, their sheets are designed for an 18 inch mattress, so it's important to do the mattress + topper (if any) math and get it to come out to approx. 18 inches.

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Really... Instead of "improving" my mattresses, which are fine the way they are, my solution is to find another vendor for sheets!

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Really... Instead of "improving" my mattresses, which are fine the way they are, my solution is to find another vendor for sheets!

Certainly an option. My whole point is no-iron sheets that look better than un-ironed cotton. If you can get that with another vendor, great!

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I personally preferred pressed cotton. That to me is LUXURY. But as we get busier, we are having to include the comphy sheets. I will warn you that they take forever to deliver. We purchased at the MidAtlantic Conference and are still waiting for just a partial order. I'm not sure when we will finally receive the rest of it either. They don't tell you that when you order.

And yes they can be hot and everything sticks to them. But they have changed slightly since we first saw them. When I first saw them they looked like a poly shirt from the 70s. But we just slept on them in New Orleans and they are different now.

I was told they had not changed and that I was nuts - but I recently found out they did change factories and are different. Now they look more silky and not like the old poly material of the 70s.

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egoodell wrote:

I will warn you that they take forever to deliver. We purchased at the MidAtlantic Conference and are still waiting for just a partial order. 

I ordered mine at the Little Rock meeting and they came 10 days later.

But I wrote them yesterday complaining that their website has, for months now, shown [X] where there is supposed to be a photo of sheets on their B&B sales page. I heard back today that they've let the web page "go" because they're about to launch a completely new web design.

I think fixing that photo would be a 2-minute job for their web master, and "letting the web page go" for months like that is not excusable. Unfortunately, they didn't ask for my opinion!

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 I have both cotton (pressed either by mangle or the laundry) and the microfiber.  I personally don't like the microfibers and my DH hates sleeping in them but they do perform well right out of the dryer - I just press the pillowcases.  Things really do stick to them, though - I always find hair and lint clinging to them.  The trick for dealing with that is to make the beds with a lint roller, apparently.  It is the main reason I don't switch to them completely - guests do love them.

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Except the static. That is an issue, but I tell guests there will be sparks. Smiling

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