As a vacation rental apartment guest (4 guests max), what coffeemaker would you like to see in the kitchen?

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Skip the slippers and spend the money on coffee. Seriously.

I am making an assumption here that this is not going to be a one night rental. You are going to be set up for one week or more, right? Maybe 3-4 days, but not less.

Vacation rentals don't usually come with stocked food of any kind other than maybe salt & pepper shakers. If your plan is to not stock food of any kind, including breakfast, having a 'few' pods to get them started on their first morning will look generous. A whole nice setup of supplies to go with it as well (pint of half & half in the fridge, sugars, mugs & stirrers all laid out). But just as a 'welcome'. You put it out on a nice tray with a big 'Welcome' sign and maybe a plate of scones or muffins. ONE DAY. The rest of the time they're on their own.

Housekeeping will come in after the guests are gone, right? Not every day. So there will be no restocking. Which will be mentioned in your confirmation packet.

How about having BOTH kinds of machine? A smaller single serve and a larger multi-cup brewer? You know no matter what you do it won't be right! Someone will complain you didn't have an espresso machine! How much room do you have in this kitchen anyway?

 

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Madeleine wrote:

I am making an assumption here that this is not going to be a one night rental. You are going to be set up for one week or more, right? Maybe 3-4 days, but not less.

That's right. I don't want to have to clean a whole apartment for just one night!

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Housekeeping will come in after the guests are gone, right? Not every day. So there will be no restocking.

That's right. Housekeeping only after they're gone, or once a week if they stay longer than a week.

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How about having BOTH kinds of machine? A smaller single serve and a larger multi-cup brewer? You know no matter what you do it won't be right! Someone will complain you didn't have an espresso machine! How much room do you have in this kitchen anyway? 

Yes, I've considered having both. Also looked at a combo espresso & coffeemaker but ruled it out as too complicated.

Each unit has a long galley-style kitchen. About like the average American house of the 70s had. Not eat-in size, but not tiny either.

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I have seen lots of comments about how guests do not know what to do with an electric kettle etc. I had one and liked it. DH liked it BUT it got too heavy for him to use. Someone commented on a Zojirushi so i looked at them. Abes of Maine had a good price on them so I bought one several years ago now. I bought the 4 liter. Perfect for what you are looking fo. It holds 4 liters of water and keeps it at the temp set BUT has a reboil button so it only takes a minute or so to be back at 212 (we hold it at 195) AND it will shut itself off if the water level gets too low. Has a carry handle and is on a swivel base. DH just sets his cup under the delivery thingy, presses the unlock button and then presses Dispense and he has his tea water (or cocoa etc - and I do have cocoa in the winter). Easy to refill. Just plug it in. Ours is on a surge strip that DH turns off once he gets his water, but when we have a tea person in-house we leave it on in case they want tea in the night. It even plays a minuet when the water is ready.

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 Ask yourself...who is your market? Niche? Do you really think you are going to get upscale folks in your place or maybe long term rental people, Business people???  Answer those kinds of questions before you go spending beaucoup dollars on stuff you don't need, or that might walk away.  You aren't the R I T Z...I would not go for the keur ing. 

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Do you really think you are going to get upscale folks in your place... 

Certainly not! Don't even think I'd want them, as we'd never meet their expectations.

But I think I can attract a few upper middle class people who will pay a little more to stay at a really nice place once in a while, as a special treat. We'll see.

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for cost alone, i initially thought a standard 12 cup coffee maker ... BUT  i switched to  the kcup style of whatever maker you choose.   i believe i got the senseo. for me, folks wasted less coffee when they made a single cup at a time. 

if you go with a standard pot, get the kind where the heat element that keeps the pot hot shuts off automatically after a certain amount of time.  maybe the newer ones all shut off on their own?

i work in two places now and am stunned at the mess people make.  i am also amazed at how many folks will turn on the little coffee maker, make a full pot when they are all alone, drink one cup and leave the rest.    they leave the whole mess for the next person to clean up, old coffee in the pot, grounds in the pull out thing on the top. 

who does this? no one. no one admits it, no one left the coffee pot heat element on with the coffee cooking away, no one spilled coffee grounds all the over the counter and the floor, no one left used coffee grounds and filter in the pot for a week to begin to grow mold. ugh.

 

 

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seashanty wrote:

if you go with a standard pot, get the kind where the heat element that keeps the pot hot shuts off automatically after a certain amount of time.  maybe the newer ones all shut off on their own?
 

There are also those machines on the market that are thermos-like. Keeps it hotter longer. But not sure how those would 'look' in your place.

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 We supply tea, hot chocolate, coffee, coffee filters, milk and 1/2&1/2 for our weekly B+B cottage rentals.  They come into the house for breakfast but they pay enough for the cottage to warrent our making sure they are happy.  There is an 8 cup electric drip coffee maker for their use, and an insulated carafe for them to transfer the brewed coffee to keep it hot.  Most folks are good about not leaving the coffee pot on once the coffee is made but few actually clean up after themselves.  

You need to decide what is going to work best for you, inlight of the rates you will be charging.  If you will be getting short stays, then k-cup might be the best bet.  For weekly guests, I would vote for the 8-12 cup pot.

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Silverspoon, I forgot that I supplied coffee filters and creamers also.  I like your comment about folks paying enough to warrant keeping them happy! 

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I guess the best question would be "What would YOU provide if this was your rental?" Specifically, would you do the keurig and coffee pot or kettle and coffee pot?

You need to give people a coffee pot, that is standard drill, now what else would or could or should you give? The more you give the more clouded the issue becomes, the more "stockkeeping" housekeeping gets to do.

FYI - for the state parks cabins I work with and visit often, after each check-out the ranger comes into the cabin and takes photos.  There is also a check list of everything provided in the cabin, and inventory is taken. Do they count all the cutlery? Perhaps. So the more you have the more intensive this process becomes.

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

I guess the best question would be "What would YOU provide if this was your rental?" Specifically, would you do the keurig and coffee pot or kettle and coffee pot?

I'd do the single serve pods because of the mess. I know when we travel DH will go out for coffee in the morning, if there is a place to walk to. If he had to make his own coffee he would feel guilty having to make a whole pot for just one cup. He loves those single serve pods even tho he hasn't really used the machine for himself since right after we got it.

In the info packet sent to guests telling them what they can expect, I would mention the single use pods, say we provide some number of them and let guests know they can bring their favorite flavors with them.

I would only provide caf and decaf of one kind of coffee blend (not a flavor asst), some tea pods and some hot cocoa pods.

It's hard to plan how much coffee to provide because no one knows what each guest's preference is...one cup in the morning, IV drip coffee all day, decaf at night?

It's also less for the housekeeper to clean up.

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Don't try to be all things to all people. A NICE coffee pot will please the majority of the people.

 

The K-Cup makers have a Mr.Coffee machine that is 40% less in cost than the K brand machine. I have the Mr.Coffee brand one. Uses K-Cups. If you search online you can find them for less than 50 cents each.  I've been able to find many, many different kinds of coffees at the bent and dent stores around here. I've been able to pick up boxes of the K-Cups for $3 for 12 cups vs. $10 for 18 cups at Wallyworld

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I am a non coffee drinker.  Love the smell but just can't get into the taste.  I plan on offering the larger 12 cup in the cabins and the smaller 4 cup or single serve in the main lodge rooms. 

My theory is those with a cabin will linger and hang around more, those in a room/suite might not.  Cabins will get delivered hot breakfast, room/suites will eat in the main lodge.

I plan to offer both a selection of teas and a variety of hot chocolate (and cider in the colder months) year round.  I appreciate that not everyone enjoys coffee but most enjoy a hot beverage even in the summer.

 

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I plan to offer both a selection of teas and a variety of hot chocolate (and cider in the colder months) year round.  

What's the shelf life on tea?

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Arkansawyer wrote:

Weaver wrote:

I plan to offer both a selection of teas and a variety of hot chocolate (and cider in the colder months) year round.  

What's the shelf life on tea?

It varies, but for my purposes I will change out every 30-60 days.

See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea#Storage

I think an air tight container with tea would be a very upscale amenity.

 

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 Keep it simple. A regular coffee pot with coffee bags they just tear open and use. They can heat water in the microwave. Unless you are aiming for a real upscale client...KISS.

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I would do the single serve because you can get all kinds of pods to go with that. And it's easier than a guest having to read directions for how much coffee to put in the machine, and water, and all of that.

You could get hot cocoa for Olga and tea pods for whoever it was who mentioned tea (sorry, I was skimming).

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Hotel rooms never offer hot cocoa packets.

Housekeeping Cabins never offer hot cocoa packets - they offer a coffee maker, mr coffee type.

Are you wanting this to be an upscale coffee bar or just a rental, where they bring their own coffee? Then a reg coffee maker.  

The last thing I would do is give more than one option, like a single cup coffee maker. just my opinion. The simpler the better. You can make it a NICE coffee maker. Smiling

Tea kettle? Most poeple boil a mug of hot water in the microwave, will there be a microwave?  One more thing to clean, or in your case (perhaps not get cleaned and people to freak out over is a kettle.)

I think about what we had at a cabin growing up. I also think about what we have when we go on vacation. There is never a kettle, electric or otherwise. I like a kettle myself, of course. 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Hotel rooms never offer hot cocoa packets.Housekeeping Cabins never offer hot cocoa packets...

Many hotels in England do, and I really appreciated it when I was over there.

I'm one of those who doesn't like them bothing my room when I'm out, so I always leave the do not distrub sign on my door the whole stay. In a couple of hotels in England they would still leave a plastic bag on my doorknob each day with fresh towels (as if I needed them) and more tea bags and hot chocolate and such. Very nice people!

And in Italy at every agriturismo where we stayed they had a full jar of ground coffee in the refrigerator for us to use. Impressed me that they would put something so expensive there for us to use. So I'm planning to do that. I can't provide the steaks and potatos, but I can sure start them out with some coffee, sugar, sweetner, and creamer.

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Hotel rooms never offer hot cocoa packets.

Housekeeping Cabins never offer hot cocoa packets - they offer a coffee maker, mr coffee type.

I now travel with my own hot cocoa mix because I hate being the only person who doesn't have a hot drink. I have Land O Lakes hot cocoa packs, Nestle's Quik and some designer hot cocoa I got for Christmas out on the counter in the inn.

You're right, I've never seen hot cocoa offered in any hotel room. It's a cryin' shame, that.

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Hotel rooms never offer hot cocoa packets.

Housekeeping Cabins never offer hot cocoa packets - they offer a coffee maker, mr coffee type.

I now travel with my own hot cocoa mix because I hate being the only person who doesn't have a hot drink. I have Land O Lakes hot cocoa packs, Nestle's Quik and some designer hot cocoa I got for Christmas out on the counter in the inn.

You're right, I've never seen hot cocoa offered in any hotel room. It's a cryin' shame, that.

You would be happy here, I have a supply of hot cocoas, even dark chocolate. I had a guest last week who had two per day, once per morning and one per evening. I had to restock. I am also cognisant that the cocoa drinkers will want to use at least a dash of creamer in their mug too, and keep it full.  

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Madeleine wrote:

Joey Bloggs wrote:

Hotel rooms never offer hot cocoa packets.

Housekeeping Cabins never offer hot cocoa packets - they offer a coffee maker, mr coffee type.

I now travel with my own hot cocoa mix because I hate being the only person who doesn't have a hot drink. I have Land O Lakes hot cocoa packs, Nestle's Quik and some designer hot cocoa I got for Christmas out on the counter in the inn.

You're right, I've never seen hot cocoa offered in any hotel room. It's a cryin' shame, that.

You would be happy here, I have a supply of hot cocoas, even dark chocolate. I had a guest last week who had two per day, once per morning and one per evening. I had to restock. I am also cognisant that the cocoa drinkers will want to use at least a dash of creamer in their mug too, and keep it full.  

I would be happy there anyway...

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I voted for the larger coffee maker.  And supply good quality coffee - regular and decaf.    We recently spent a week with friends at the beach in a 2 bedroom condo-type unit and we really went through the coffee (that I brought), even with our friends drinking the regular and us drinking decaf.

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My answer depends on how many guests that apt will accommodate.  If a couple, maybe the 4 cup would do, if 3-4 guests I would prefer the 12 cup. 

This also is assuming that you are not providing breakfast for these people. 

Those K-cups are good for a quick pick me up thing but not for me in the morning.  I want my 2nd cup ready to pour ASAP... or as a warm-up.  Unless you have several cups around this is not possible. 

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My answer depends on how many guests that apt will accommodate.  If a couple, maybe the 4 cup would do, if 3-4 guests I would prefer the 12 cup. 

This also is assuming that you are not providing breakfast for these people. 

Those K-cups are good for a quick pick me up thing but not for me in the morning.  I want my 2nd cup ready to pour ASAP... or as a warm-up.  Unless you have several cups around this is not possible. 

Thanks. I've edited to specify 4 guests max. in the apartments. And correct. They'll do their own breakfast.

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copperhead wrote:

My answer depends on how many guests that apt will accommodate.  If a couple, maybe the 4 cup would do, if 3-4 guests I would prefer the 12 cup. 

This also is assuming that you are not providing breakfast for these people. 

Those K-cups are good for a quick pick me up thing but not for me in the morning.  I want my 2nd cup ready to pour ASAP... or as a warm-up.  Unless you have several cups around this is not possible. 

Thanks. I've edited to specify 4 guests max. in the apartments. And correct. They'll do their own breakfast.

Whew, at first I was thinking I missed that!  Went back and voted, but also agree that a tea kettle would be a welcomed site by many guests.

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copperhead wrote:

...also agree that a tea kettle would be a welcomed site by many guests.

That brings up another question. Since they'll have a gas range for cooking, can I get by with a regular whistling tea kettle you heat on the stove, or is there a great benefit to the electric one in my case?

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ELECTric ! Please. I hate to wait for that darn stove top kettle to boil.  We used to travel to the states with our own electric kettle,not many places had one. the new kettles have an auto shut off.

So if not around it will shut off once it reach boiling point.

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Arkansawyer wrote:

copperhead wrote:

...also agree that a tea kettle would be a welcomed site by many guests.

That brings up another question. Since they'll have a gas range for cooking, can I get by with a regular whistling tea kettle you heat on the stove, or is there a great benefit to the electric one in my case?

No. People walk off with the kettle happily boiling away, gas running and then POW it blows up. Guests will use the micro to heat water or they will boil it in a pot on the stove if they're 'that' way. I have more trouble explaining an electric kettle to guests than you want to believe. (And later on many of them think it's the best thing since sliced bread and want to know where to buy them!)

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An electric tea kettle would be much safer!

And believe it or not, you can cook hard boiled eggs in it! What will they think of next? Hard Boiled Eggs

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copperhead wrote:

...also agree that a tea kettle would be a welcomed site by many guests.

That brings up another question. Since they'll have a gas range for cooking, can I get by with a regular whistling tea kettle you heat on the stove, or is there a great benefit to the electric one in my case?

For myself I've never liked using a kettle on a stove top.  Prefer the electric kettle because it automatically shuts off when it is boiled.  Plus I don't like using a gas stove because I have a really good sniffer and can smell the gas.

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None!  I don't drink coffee but would like to have a tea kettle.

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Barry_Manilow wrote:

None!  I don't drink coffee but would like to have a tea kettle.

OK, then recommend a tea kettle you'd like to find when you arrive!

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Barry_Manilow wrote:

None!  I don't drink coffee but would like to have a tea kettle.

OK, then recommend a tea kettle you'd like to find when you arrive!

 

In two of my rooms I have a good ol Mr Coffee 4-cup coffee maker with locally roasted pillow packs of organic coffee with my logo on them.  This serves two people.  I would have a full size coffee maker if it were more people.  Next to the coffee maker I have a Krups tea kettle that boils water quickly.  It has been in use 6 years with no problems.  

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Barry_Manilow wrote:

None!  I don't drink coffee but would like to have a tea kettle.

OK, then recommend a tea kettle you'd like to find when you arrive!

Would you provide hot chocolate for the non coffee or tea drinker?  Can you make that in the single coffee maker?

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Olga wrote:

Would you provide hot chocolate for the non coffee or tea drinker?  Can you make that in the single coffee maker?

I could provide some hot chocolate single cup packets. There will be a microwave for heating the water or milk. I guess there are also hot chocolate k-cups available if I go in that direction.

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