Do you offer discounts for friends and family?

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never, that's what my couch is for
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always, friends stay free
28% (5 votes)
only if I have an open room
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10%
6% (1 vote)
20%
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30%
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40%
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50%
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offseason rate
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There's a few close family members and friends who can come any time and it's free, but they know the nature of the business and wouldn't impose on us.

Others can come off peak for free, but not during peak and that's because..........

 

We had an episode in our second summer, old friends of DH wanted to come with wife and daughter  ( 1st room)  plus his  sister and daughter (2nd room), in august for 4 nights. DH told the friend's wife  they'd have to pay, that was ok. Half way their holiday friend told DH that he'd not told his sister she'd have to pay and she was broke and couldn't afford the room. We couldn't turf them out of the room on to the sofa at that point so they had the room for 4 nights for free. Then when they came to leave the friend had obviously not looked at the price of our rooms and gave DH an envelope with just over half the cost of the room. DH was furious, told them it was not enough and they'd have to pay the rest of their room charge, especially as they'd got the other room for free.  Not really spoken to them since.

 

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These are the questions we always ask first, then we are happy to have our friends or family break up the monotony.

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 family stayed free but not as officially booked guests.  i didn't announce this anywhere, just the room was not available  ...  if i had chambermaids working, i'd ask the family to tip them or pitch in for food.  with so many rooms, people coming and going, i don't know how folks would know who was paying what.  it didn't happen often.  maybe once a year.

friends, well, i'd discount ... same as i'd offer a discount for whatever reason. 

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they have to pay - doesn't say how much - hint hint

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Family stays for free. Once we started letting friends stay for free we couldn't go back and we are starting to resent it a little. If I were starting over I would give them a discount but not let them stay for free. I have a feeling that if we did that we'd see them a little (or a lot!) less.

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Bear in mind that if you plan to allow family to stay at your B&B to never mention it online. If the you know who finds out then you cannot count that room for one full year as a business write off. They tell me if you get an a  u  d  i  t  the first thing you'll be told is, "What a lovely B&B! Your family must love staying here" which is the trap. You respond that family never stays in the rooms, only with you in your owner's quarters or in the motel nearby.

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egoodell wrote:

Bear in mind that if you plan to allow family to stay at your B&B to never mention it online. If the you know who finds out then you cannot count that room for one full year as a business write off. They tell me if you get an a  u  d  i  t  the first thing you'll be told is, "What a lovely B&B! Your family must love staying here" which is the trap. You respond that family never stays in the rooms, only with you in your owner's quarters or in the motel nearby.

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Well that's horrible!
So if a person owns a restaurant and they comp a meal is that the same thIng?
Or owns a theater and gives seats away?

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Bob wrote:

Well that's horrible! So if a person owns a restaurant and they comp a meal is that the same thIng? Or owns a theater and gives seats away?

Excellent points Bob. I guess they'd say the difference is that the inn is your home that you're also calling a business, whereas a theater or restaurant is a business only.

So maybe this restriction only applies to folks who actually live in the building, like a conventional B&B, vs. say those who have cabins, cottages, apartments, or other separate accommodations.

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Arkansawyer wrote:

Bob wrote:

Well that's horrible! So if a person owns a restaurant and they comp a meal is that the same thIng? Or owns a theater and gives seats away?

Excellent points Bob. I guess they'd say the difference is that the inn is your home that you're also calling a business, whereas a theater or restaurant is a business only.

So maybe this restriction only applies to folks who actually live in the building, like a conventional B&B, vs. say those who have cabins, cottages, apartments, or other separate accommodations.

There were a lot of people calling themselves a B & B for the tax benefits but in reality they were beach houses (or whatever) for friends and family) - hence the tag hobby or lifestyle B & B that the IRS and many others have of us. That is why B & Bs are looked at with a magnifying glass. I have avoided that by having my property listed at the assessor's office a 2/3 commercial. I post in my ledgers that my friends and family paid a small amount of money and let them tax me on that revenue. They cannot tell me how much to charge them, just that I must charge if I am a business. I have also always had enough marketing expense that I could never be accused of not being serious about the business.

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There were a lot of people calling themselves a B & B for the tax benefits but in reality they were beach houses (or whatever) for friends and family) - hence the tag hobby or lifestyle B & B that the IRS and many others have of us. That is why B & Bs are looked at with a magnifying glass. I have avoided that by having my property listed at the assessor's office a 2/3 commercial. I post in my ledgers that my friends and family paid a small amount of money and let them tax me on that revenue. They cannot tell me how much to charge them, just that I must charge if I am a business. I have also always had enough marketing expense that I could never be accused of not being serious about the business.

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With all the taxes we have to pay I'd just like to have them show that we were a hobby B&B! Besides, we have no other source of income!

Riki

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gillumhouse wrote:

There were a lot of people calling themselves a B & B for the tax benefits but in reality they were beach houses (or whatever) for friends and family) - hence the tag hobby or lifestyle B & B that the IRS and many others have of us. That is why B & Bs are looked at with a magnifying glass. I have also always had enough marketing expense that I could never be accused of not being serious about the business.

Good explanation. It does seem quite extreme to penalize you as not legit if just one free stay is given to a family member. I guess common sense just doesn't come into it, though.

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Technically, we cannot even use our dining room for our meals and call it part of the business. Not a problem for us since DH takes his meals in his "bat cave" as a young friend calls it and I usually eat at my computer. The dining room is only used for guests or holiday meals - often with guests. Only the kitchen is considered shared space. Not gonna fight with the govmint!!

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gillumhouse wrote:

Technically, we cannot even use our dining room for our meals and call it part of the business. Not a problem for us since DH takes his meals in his "bat cave" as a young friend calls it and I usually eat at my computer. The dining room is only used for guests or holiday meals - often with guests. Only the kitchen is considered shared space. Not gonna fight with the govmint!!

This is sad!

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Sad..but true. Did you not realize this?? First thing our accountant made us aware of when we sat down with him.

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Wow...sneaky!! I could see myself falling for that one.

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They do love it and they always PAY!

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Family and friends not free so I do not ever fight the gov - but I pay the minute amount I post. And it is only if I have a vacant room. they have to book far enough out to ensure that.

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