Every Other Weekend...Indefinitely

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Advice needed on an interesting situation. I got a call today from a divorced father who lives about 4 hours from here. He gets his kids (9 y.o. and 13 y.o.) every other weekend, Friday 6 p.m. to Sunday 5 p.m. He wants to spend that time with them here rather than in his home 4 hours away, because they're at the age where they want to be near their friends.

So he's asking to rent my most expensive room for 2 weekend nights (my highest rate), every other week for the foreseeable future.

Thoughts? It would be nice to have such a regular setup locked in, and other people could still get the place on the off weeks.

I'd have to mark those weekends off way out on the calendar, and I guess it would be fair to charge the full two nights, two weeks in advance each time, in return for marking off all those future weekends. Or should I get more up front, like charge the 4 nights/month up front on the first of each month?

Definitely would need assurance that the kids wouldn't be having friends over when the dad is not there.

Of course, it will probably fall through anyway. I suggested he book it just for the next 2 nights he'll be in town, and see how it goes before we make any big future plans. I also mentioned that I can offer a king bed in the bedroom but with 3 of them they'd need to use the queen size sofa bed in the living area, and he wasn't wild about that but said it would probably work. We'll see!

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I hope so. I would be content to just have everything look the same!

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Kind of funny. The dad and sons were at my place again this weekend. They always leave the place as clean as can be, and did again this time, but I noticed that one of my white towels is now evenly blueish white, and I could tell the washer/dryer had been used. I'm pretty sure one of them got a new pair of blue jeans or something and washed them with the white towel. Just like three guys to not know about separating whites and colors in the washer!

I washed it with bleach and it's better, but I doubt it will ever be bright white again. No big deal. Excellent repeating guests can get away with a lot and I'll still be happy!

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Actually, blue keeps whites from going yellow. So over time it will get bright again and the colour running on to other towels with brighten them. It's the same as using bluing.

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This guest's/family's first visit was tonight. If you've followed the saga, it's a divorced father who gets visitation with his teenaged sons every other week, and he wants to rent my most expensive room for them, every other weekend, for two weekend nights (highest rate), for YEARS!

When they didn't arrive by dark I drove down to my guesthouse and turned on the porch light so they could see to enter their keypad code.

I waited all night, and finally at 11:21 p.m. (23:21) he entered his code and entered the apartment (the high tech doorknob sends me a message when the guest enters their code). It’s homecoming at the local high school tonight so I’m guessing his teenagers had the ballgame and maybe a dance to go to. If they like the place, great. If they don’t, I defy them to find a better place in this county! yes

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We have Amish here, but they are farmers and butchers and shopkeepers. Wish we had a furniture maker, but alas no such luck.

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I don't get the part about renting a room and then complaining about the sofa bed.  I would think if that isn't what he wants, he should rent a different room.  ????

But, I think it is cool that he wants to come to their town.  Cool that he wants to establish a home base.   And smart to figure that two weekends a month at a b&b costs less than renting an apartment full time.

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OK, his first 2-night reservation just arrived through ResKey, so he's for real. We'll see how the mid-October stay goes, and if the boys (found out it's 2 boys) like it OK.

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How about Murphy (wall) bed? When not in use, it just looks like a wardrobe.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Versailles-French-Day-Bed-and-Trundle-Black-White-Metal-Frame-with-Foam-Mattress-/321122376791?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Beds&var=510116126844&hash=item4ac4629c57

makes 2 single beds and looks like a sofa - each has a proper mattress

 

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The bedroom is large and might hold a bunk bed against the wall, but that would really ruin the look of the room, as it is now, for everybody else who stays there (upscale-type adults). I'll think about it.

We'll see how the trial run weekend goes. If the dad seems like it's for him, I might be willing to do some special things to make it work for him. He would be an $8,000/year customer. ($150/night X 2 nights/week X 26 weeks/year)

This guy spoke on the phone about how he has looked for a house to buy here, or an apartment to rent, just to use 4 nights/month! That's dedication! But he said nothing he found, that was affordable for him, was nice. He thinks my place is nice. Wise man!

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There are so many of these type things...they come through and want a whole house booking for a family reunion, and oh forget to mention the 5 kids under 10...and the use of the kitchen, and oh granny can't do stairs...

Any time I answer local, I get a total waste of time. Unfortunately. A NIGHT!!? is the typical answer. And you know our rates aren't very high... 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

There are so many of these type things...they come through and want a whole house booking for a family reunion, and oh forget to mention the 5 kids under 10...and the use of the kitchen, and oh granny can't do stairs...

Any time I answer local, I get a total waste of time. Unfortunately. A NIGHT!!? is the typical answer. And you know our rates aren't very high... 

Arkie is a bit of a different situation because it is a rental apt. When I got special requests for the B & B....sorry...no kids no way no how. Bed & Breakfast that is it.

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Seriously take a look at some of that furniture. Besides the bunk beds they have some others that act as sofas or even desks.

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YEs I agree there are other options out there rather than a bunk bed. Trundles with the look of daybed etc. I liked the look of this one

Take a look here...lots of options

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You ain't seen nothing until you see a bed that is also a desk... http://www.resourcefurniture.com/space-savers/twin-space-saving-beds/cabrio-in or a bed that is also a couch http://www.resourcefurniture.com/space-savers/queen-space-saving-beds/circe_sofa

This is Italian furniture that is made for loft spaces. The desks are so well done that you don't even have to empty them.

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Those are really nice / cool looking.

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Sugar Bear wrote:

Seriously take a look at some of that furniture. Besides the bunk beds they have some others that act as sofas or even desks.

Ah yes! I've seen them featured on a TV show, with the stuff that almost disappears when you don't need it. Yes, I'll look carefully at those fold-away bunk beds. Thanks for reminding me!

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Suggest a trial run for both you and the family before YOU committing your room only for him to possibly back out. 

I have had the exact same scenario played out here.  They became too comfortable and started bringing a friend or 2, then it was the Dad's dogs...  I am not dog friendly and he knew this.  He crated them at night outside after I had told him of several dog kennels and he had said he would look into it, but the following morning I found the dogs (2 small) crated outside.  THAT was the last time they were here. I think he thought I would cave.  

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Are you kidding? If he likes it, do what you can. I particularly like the stuff from Resource Furniture, something like their bunk beds that sit against the wall. 

But ensure he tries it and is happy about it, first.

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Sugar Bear wrote:

I particularly like the stuff from Resource Furniture, something like their bunk beds that sit against the wall. 

Got a quote back from them today on a "Lollisoft" unit which is the latest version of the Lollipop bunk bed.

Without the optional desk or headboard, prices are

$5,800 in White Laminate
$5,050 in light or dark oak Laminate
$6,935 in choice of 25 lacquer colors

Plus $500 to $950 for twin mattresses, depending on the type selected.

Plus $950 shipping.

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I know they aren't cheap. But they are impressive and convenient and extremely well made. If you can make it back, it's great. If you can't, then you have to look for other choices.

Take a look at companies like wallbed and you will see how impressive this is compared to some of the cheap stuff out there. Costco sells them as well, but again not as useful or impressive, from $1K for a full.

 

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HOLEY MOLEY!!!! I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere for WAY less. daybeds.com  gives free shipping and a free mattress. A trundle from them is about $700!

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HOLEY MOLEY!!!! I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere for WAY less. daybeds.com  gives free shipping and a free mattress. A trundle from them is about $700!

Arkie- any chance you are near any Amish communities with furniture craftsman? Where I live there are Amish furniture builders and a lot of our furniture in the inn is made by them and was quite the way to sell Smiling Our Amish craftsmen start the process with locally cut logs, sawed at the mmills around this area, kilned here, and created here. Bi-i-i-i-i-i-g selling points. I can't tell you how many guests would go to their showroom, buy something, and come BACK to the inn when it was time to pick it up. If you can create it, I bet they can build it

 

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Not wild about using a sofa bed for a kid? Sorry that last line caught me off guard.

Have him just book the first time and see how it goes. I have never seen your place as kid friendly, really. We get calls like this that never pan out...it is always alot of thought to consider then they just disappear and never call back.

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Not wild about using a sofa bed for a kid? Sorry that last line caught me off guard.

Have him just book the first time and see how it goes. I have never seen your place as kid friendly, really. We get calls like this that never pan out...it is always alot of thought to consider then they just disappear and never call back.

I know how divorces and kids work. I think this is all about making the kids like staying with him more than staying with mom. If they have to stay on a sofa bed, it's a strike against dad. These broken family situations are extremely competitive between the parents, and the kids learn to manipulate things.

Indeed, I'm expecting to never hear from him again, but we'll see. I wouldn't call my place "not kid friendly" but maybe "kid uncomfortable" in that it will make them feel like they should be careful not to damage anything, which is exactly how I want them to feel.

Though I call it kid uncomfortable (too fancy for kids to be comfortable), I had one couple with their 12-year-old and they said they couldn't get him to leave the sofa bed because he'd never had a 60" plasma TV to watch from bed before. Then he discovered the heated water bidet toilet seat, and they couldn't get him to leave the bathroom!!!

BTW, so far nobody has damaged ANYTHING. Not a single mar anywhere...so far Sad

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Not wild about using a sofa bed for a kid? Sorry that last line caught me off guard.

Have him just book the first time and see how it goes. I have never seen your place as kid friendly, really. We get calls like this that never pan out...it is always alot of thought to consider then they just disappear and never call back.

Arkie did not say whether the kids are one of each or same sex. That would explain the not wild about it. 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Not wild about using a sofa bed for a kid? Sorry that last line caught me off guard.

Have him just book the first time and see how it goes. I have never seen your place as kid friendly, really. We get calls like this that never pan out...it is always alot of thought to consider then they just disappear and never call back.

Arkie did not say whether the kids are one of each or same sex. That would explain the not wild about it. 

I figured a boy and girl, boy sleeps with dad girl on sofa bed, two girls, both girls on sofa bed, or whatever.

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Add the bed on the wall and you have a room that can sleep 5... if you have the space. And everyone is happy, including the owner!

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