Make your own space liveable first!

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Congratulations on finding your new B&B, whether you've turned your own house into your new business or you've bought a pre-existing B&B.

Just a simple word of advice...it's much easier to be a gracious host if, when you close your door at night, your own personal space is relaxing and inviting. Be sure to take time to create your own haven!

 

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My daughter was 3 1/2 and used to say 'animal crappers' and we still call them that to this day.  It was especially fun when they had them in sunday school.

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We added an "House on the addition".....the small house is the original, where we live. The 2 story part is the B&B with own entrance. We started building in September of 2006.

My backdoor which used to lead out to the deck is seperating the B&B from our privat equaters, so I had to change nothing in my house. Like it that way.

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I've never heard the word "decrapification" before.  Gotta say, I LOVE IT!!!  And that's my new favorite word.  I go through decrapification often.  If I haven't worn it since last season, it's outta here.  I parted with most of my Christmas stuff - it's easier and cheap enough to buy new every year and then Goodwill it later.  I don't have storage space to devote to seasonal things.  I even unloaded a lot of my beloved University of Michigan paraphanalia - that's when I knew how devoted to the yacht I really was.  Smiling  My guest rooms are well cleared out, except for the last one which I'm about to tackle.  I keep it simple...less stuff to have to pick up or tie down when chartering, and less stuff to have to move and dust.  My last guest room, the smallest one is currently a storage room, but that has to change NOW.  Once I get rid of all of the carpet and install teak & holly floors, then the upright steam cleaner and the vacuum cleaner go off to another home, too.  I often have to remind my mother to please stop sending me clothes.  My closet is only 16" wide and with that and two drawers, that's all the storage space I have for myself.  My quarters are quite small, but I am very comfortable in there.

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completely sidetracked by talk of wood:  Is Holly a good wood for floors in marine environments?  I know teak is but its the first I've heard of Holly.

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Teak & Holly is very common in marine soles (floors).  As you already know, the teak is a very durable wood and resistent to insects, rot, etc.  I'm not sure how holly plays in that, though I assume it has many of the same properties or they would not have been paired up together a very long time ago.  The holly in teak & holly is that off white colored thin stripe between the teak strips, giving the sole that traditional nautical look.  This is the only application I've ever seen holly used.  I've never seen it used alone, probably because it is rare and expensive and likely used just for the accent.

There are photos of a teak & holly sole here (this is my good friends' boat):  http://marioandyaisy.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html

When I have an opportunity to undertake this project, my floors will look just like this...no more steam cleaning of carpets or spills to fret over.

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We tore off an old flat roofed porch and enclosed that area for our walk-in closet in our quarters in our 1900s house.  It's been great because we did a closet organizer system.  I actually cleared everything out of a dresser and am just using the shelves and drawers in the closet.  As the inventor of the term "decrapification", I thank you.  I'm trying to get my dh to go along with the process.  haha Smiling

 

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Viva la Crapificators !  (well unless they are collecting stuff I have no interest in) 

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Is it crapificators or crappers???

=) Kk.

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I think it would be crapifiers who are responsible for crapification.  At least in my dictionary

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Too many potential potty jokes...can't even answer this one.

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Dh finally got framed the little octagon window he put in our room almost a year ago.  He got the drywall all put in around it and mudded.  So right now we have the ladder, the bucket, the tooks, teh shop vac and all the rest to "give it another coat" he said when I asked about putting it all away.

His dresser sits in front of this window - below it.  All the crap from his dresser is in a box.  Ahhhhh you can feel the stress melt away...I quickly placed a vase of flowers on his dresser and said "Now, doesn't that look nice!"  He grunted and backed out of the room.

I found this up there today...instead of the flowers.

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ywtgtx&s=3

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One of these has to work! APPRENTLY NOT.  Hm.  Back tot he old method

 

 

 

 

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Nice job!!  The stuff on the top of my dh's armoire could kill a large person if it fell on them.  I would never post a picture here!!

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I am cackling here. He's a card...

The steamer for the wallpaper is at the top of the stairs. The ladder for steaming the wallpaper and spackling is still in the bedroom. The tools are still in the bedroom. The bed is still in the middle of the room (so the walls can be spackled and painted). But the wallpaper is gone. I just got new slipcovers for the chairs and it's looking like it will get painted soon.

 

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Well this dude here had an announcement after he cleaned out his workshop alllllllll day on Sunday.  He told me he actually threw away a motherboard.  He is still in shock over it, as am I.

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My husband has a large gun safe.  Needless to say, it is full, but he says he can get another couple of guns in there.  That is the only way he can get another, it has to fit in the safe.

Other things, I can see I am not going to use it, I put it on freecycle or craigs list to get it out. Make sure my kids don't want it first, then it is gone.

My husband says my stuff is junk and his isn't. 

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hawley wrote:
My husband says my stuff is junk and his isn't. 

LOL  Junk is in the eye of the beholder....and if I be holdin it, it isn't junk. 

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My mother is trying to give me vases and baskets to take home with me. (The fire dept sent dad 2 floral arrangements and 2 fruit baskets in the past 3 months.) I passed. They were lovely, but no thanks. Mom is going to give them back to be reused for the next 'sunshine' basket they put together.

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LOL   You don't understand...it takes time and effort for us "collectors" to agonize over throwing anything away.  Every item you pick up you have to race through your brain "What could I, should I, would I use this for?"  Eye-wink

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I understand, believe me.  Y'all need to realize though that if it's been there for x period of time, chances are that you don't need it.  I hear that all the time, "If I throw (give) it away or sell it, I just know that I'll need it the very next day".  Kill me now....

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But that is so true  LOL   I'll need it within 5 days of the time I get rid of it...it is practically guaranteed  Eye-wink

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Yep, your dw is saying "kill me now", too...haha!

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LOL  No she is saying..... "Sears called and that bandsaw you ordered just came in.  What are you going to throw out to make up for this new incoming thing?"    Fortuantely I managed to change the subject quickly  Eye-wink

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Haha!  Well, my dh has a 3 car garage and has no room for anything else without a major clean out!  I have banned him from putting anything in the one car garage attached to the second house.  Trust me...he's tried to get some stuff in there!  As it is, what I thought would be my area for a "potting" shed and all my gardening stuff now has a stack of ds24's boxes that he hasn't taken yet, a Queen size mattress, boxspring, and bed frame, and the lawn mower (because I couldn't get it in & out of the other garage easily because of all his stuff). 

Sigh...dreams die quickly when you're married to a pack rat....

 

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  Our first house had a giagantic garage.   4car plus workshop and storage room.   Our home now has no garage....I miss the garage 

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We had a 3 car garage in the house before this one with a pad behind one bay with another garage door where you could park a small boat or camper, or jet ski or something like that.  Good thing we didn't have any of those things because you couldn't get to that door to the pad!  A garage was essential for him here & he couldn't wait until it was enlarged.  What's interesting is that somehow everything fit into a 1 !/2 garage when we moved here & now the 3 car garage is full.  It's a mystery....

With a packrat husband like mine, it's the only way to keep the peace Smiling

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I couldn't believe it!  I firmly stated these are going to goodwill today.  He grunted, picked them up and took them out to the truck.  WOW? That was easy.  He knows I am at breaking point. 

I then say, okay let's go drop the stuff off...No later on, he says, I have more stuff in the shop. 

Me - Well we can take that tomorrow. (I am trying to get that stuff out of our hair).

I go out, the stuff is in HIS WORSHOP which he spent 7 hours cleaning out so he could see the floor.  We have zero storage space available and there it all sits.

I told him If you want a yard sale, go right ahead, but I am not doing it.

So it was relocated.  The decrapification relocation program.

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I am very fortunate then, as my dh is the one who is pro-decrapification, and I'm the one who is the daughter of people who never threw anything away.  [Two stories:  once my dad needed to irrigate the garden and he went out to the barn, got an electric motor and hooked it up to the well.  He was very proud of his work.  I asked him how long he'd had that motor... oh, about 30 years.  Then, when my mother died, I inherited almost all of the toys I played with when I was young... some antiques, some still playable, some that should have been thrown out years ago.]

So when I'm ready to get organized, I do best to have dh with me, who says, "What are you keeping that for?  Get rid of it!"  Everytime I go to an auction I end up with more crap, since sometimes I buy something I want in a box lot, and it comes with 8 more things I don't need (but hate to just throw out).  But the part of me that is my Dad says, "I could use that sometime..."

I've finally gotten to where I just can't do a yard sale (having a big sign in the front yard is part of that), but all I have to do is pack it up for charity and it disappears... first to his truck, then it's gone.

=)  Kk.

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Unfortunately I come from a long line of pack rats. Most of my crap though is not THINGS - I de-crapped those long ago. Mine is documents and the fear that if I throw it away I will need it next week as proof of something. That is why there is a tub of City Council stuff in the attic - off Council since 1999. I also have rails-to-trails, MABB, B & B, family, and Council of Churches plus Blueprint Community, WV Collaberative, museum, and assorted Conferences.

Every time I go on a tear and clean it out, it takes a week or two at the most and it is back! I swear it reproduces when my back is turned. Plus I have also experienced the found what I needed because I did not pitch what I should have. Ferinstance - we were doing a history of our organization and I found a newsletter I had kept from just after we joined with all the info plus the list of Standards - the darn newsletter was over 10 years old!

 

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I can't THROW things away, but I can give them away. It's a matter of getting in the car and taking them some place. Plus, I have to sort it out. Very good goes to the community center for their store, good goes to goodwill or the homeless shelter, and junk goes out.

Good story for all those old house tinkerers...when we sold our 1850 house in VT, the barn had a ton or so of slate roofing shingles and slate floor. Also in the mix were some of the decorative finials that had been removed when a porch was added. Dimensional lumber from way back when, perfect for fixing an old house.

The soon-to-be new owner took one look at it on the walk-thru and said, 'I want all that junk out of here before the closing.' (In about a half hour.) Hubs tried to explain it was all 'good' stuff she would need if anyone came to work on the house. 'Out, I don't want it.' Her mother, bless  her heart, said, 'Honey, don't worry about it, daddy will come over and take all of that over to our house.' She then turned to hubs and said, 'A goldmine! Thank you for leaving it!'

We have more bits and bobs in the cellar than you could shake a stick at. When the PO's moved out of the inn there wasn't so much as a spare nut or bolt anywhere. Which is why they never fixed anything...they had no spare parts.

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I need more time to de-crapify & I have to send my dh away somewhere, I've decided it's the only way.  He's going to go out of town for the weekend in a couple of weeks.  No guests are booked in & I'm tempted to block the weekend out.  Let the major de-crapification begin!  Smiling

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LOL are you saying DH's are impediments to decrapification ??? 

(DW just put me on a plan, if I keep something new, I have to throw something else out.)

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haha!  Only when it is related to their stuff Smiling  You will understand this...he is a techie and you never know when you'll need that computer journal, cable, thingamajig, whatever.  I have sorted that stuff & put it in boxes labeled "Phone", "Internet/Computer Cables", "TV/Cable Accessories" "Computer Software", "Computer Hardware", yada, yada.  Somehow it gets jumbled up again.  How does this happen??  Total mystery to me!  It must happen when I'm sleeping...much like the cobwebs from the 24/7 spiders.  So, in MY particular situation because this stuff resides in our office/den (which is not a large room by any means), I have to offer up a resounding, YES, Yes, yes!  My dh is a major impediment to decrapification!!  I can only hope that this is not the case with all husbands/spouses/significant others.  

Pretty soon his stuff will become part of an Undercover Decrapification Relocation Program.  The stuff will no longer be able to be in contact with its owner unless it goes through the agent who instituted the move

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LOL  I am allotted 2/3 of the basement ... but when the piles get too large down there... I get ...erm.... comments.  So it is not an unlimited arrangment.   But when something breaks and I don't have to buy anything in order to repair it, I don't hear any complaints  Eye-wink

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After going into massive decrapification mode last night, I am here to attest that this is totally true! 

Make your space livable so you have a NICE place to retreat to.  Guests will comment how lovely your home is (and what they don't see is the part of it YOU live in) the part with boxes of brochures gathering dust bunnies under the beds and boxes of this and stuff shoved everywhere and anywhere it can be shoved.

I could be heard in the kitchen (yes the guests were out at the time) hollering "Don't give me no more junk!!! NO MORE!!!"  People, I don't want family momentos that gather dust, please!! Box it up and I can keep it, but it DOES NOT have to be displayed.

I am majorly aggro about this right now.  I was ready to strip our quarters down to nothing.  Dh said "What, you want this place bare?"  YES! I DO!  I can't cope with all the cleaning and dusting of OUR OWN QUARTERS left alone this whole house.

So to agree 100% with this thread, make your quarters nice, don't do them last and hate them.  I am still in the decrapification mode.  How many boxes of crap do I need to the B&B when most (99% of guests) never even look at this stuff?????!!!!!  I have to live here too, so for that I am stripping it all down.

 

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Waiting for hubs to return from dr appt this AM, I decrapified my desk. We are painting our bedroom so I have 2 rooms in my space that are 'decent'...the bathroom and the bedroom. But, you're right, there's no time/patience with the 'stuff' that gets generated by this biz. And no time/patience/energy for keeping up with my space.

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I "redid' The OQ last year when DH was out of town ..... and with a full house of guests.  It almost killed me, but as you pointed out I felt it was absolutely essential to have a space we could enjoy.  It got to be so depressing to come from the beautiful, comfortable guest areas into a gloomy, drab area that was completely centered around the laundry.   I went completely (happily) overboard with the colours .... the living room walls and ceiling are BRIGHT yellow (think a Beatles Submarine) with a deep red accent wall.  I ripped up all the carpets and put down a wide-board, wood laminate and most importantly I closed off the laundry area so when I got a chance to relax I could shut the door and not have piles of laundry and ironing reproaching me at every turn.  It's in no way finished, I haven't put back the baseboards and there's still a ton of touch-ups to be done, but I really enjoy our space now.

BTW - having now had the "pleasure" of ripping up carpet I will never have it again - it was DISGUSTING and with three cats being able to damp mop / swiffer etc is absolutely fabulous.

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Next year...famous last words...I'm getting rid of the carpeting in my place. UGH, it is disgusting. I shouldn't have carpet at all due to allergies. But I want hardwood floors. I have the 'imitation' hardwood floors in a couple of areas and it's noisy and fake looking. Some of the newer stuff looks much better, this looks like what it is...a photo of wood floor on plastic.

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I was lucky and got REALLY good laminate wood flooring - it's commercial grade and looks and sounds great.  There's a Maine institution called Marden's.  It's a closeout store and for once they had what I needed when I needed it. 

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We put the wood laminate in the kitchen, butler's pantry area & it was a good decision.  We bought a higher grade of wood laminate & bought the most expensive underlayment or whatever it's called.  Put ceramic tile in the laundry room.  Considering that we ripped up $1 per sq ft black & white linoleum tiles that were dirty & cracked, anything would be an improvement.  But, I really like the laminate & I swore that I would never have it.  It was a good cost effective alternative to hardwood & I think is more durable for the use that area is getting with the inn now. 

Our innkeepers quarters...still a major disaster area with boxes and too much of dh's stuff.  He needs to finish painting his closet so he can get that stuff put away.  Then, some other stuff just needs to disappear when he's not around. 

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Yours looks good. What I have doesn't. I was awful when we were looking at the place. I walked across the laminate and it popped, like laminate can do and I said, 'What IS this stuff? Linoleum?' I was told (rather brusquely), 'It's wood flooring.' To which I replied, 'No it isn't, it's some sort of look alike vinyl.' (OK I was wrong about the vinyl part, but it certainly wasn't wood.) No wonder the PO's didn't like me. I insulted their precious flooring. (Which was unfinished, BTW.)

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Ah, yes, Marden's. I always forget to try there when I need a lot of something I don't want to spend a lot of money on! Friends bought their stair runner there, 30 yds or so for something like $150. And it's wool!

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We built our cabin long before we decided to open a B&B, so it's already comfortable for us.   Unfortunately, our open design while perfect for us has created some privacy issues that will need to be addressed.

Our home office is open and visible from the main entry.   My concern is that guests entering will see our computer and automatically assume that it's O.K. to "just check my email" OR that our one and only bathroom (in the main house) is for their use.   We're going over strategies to prevent that.   Our guest cottages are about 500 feet from our cabin and I understand that when your morning coffee kicks in, you need a bathroom.

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So guests from your cabins are in your main house for breakfast?   

We have an open floor plan too and our guests are only in our house for breakfast  and checkout.  The computer in the open we get away with by using a laptop we tuck in a drawer when we aren't using it.  The bathroom you could proabaly get away with keeping the door closed and if worse comes to worse put a small sign on it that says "Closet"  Eye-wink Though with the distance to your cabins you are right there might be times when people will simply have to use your closet.

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Good idea to address those issues now. My inn kitchen is wide open, no doors, and guests DO think it is ok to use it.

We did a reno in Jan 07 and added a 'peninsula' to the guest area that blocks the direct walk into the kitchen. Many guests won't go around that, but some still do. I need my sign for the summer season...

We have a half bath right off the kitchen that was the original owners' only bathroom (we took out the shower to make space for the washer/dryer) and a lot of guests know that bathroom is there. We don't lock it but it is a mess most of the time so I don't encourage anyone to use it.

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A private space is soooo important! We have our private sitting room/office off the kitchen and then the bedroom is a wonderful retreat. No TV, no 'puter. All private areas have locking doors (including the kitchen). When I started up I didn't have a separate sitting room but after a year I knew I had to have my own space so did that. I also have someone come in and clean our private areas once a week during the busy season. It's so nice to 'come home' to a clean bathroom, etc., and not have to do it myself.

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That's what i want...someone to clean my space in season. That's my assigned task for today...clean my space. So far the bathroom is done. Ugh.

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Hey I like the NEW designation along the left side of the nwe posts!  GOOD JOB Swirt. 

I can't picture you now as a BREE.  Have you got something funny or clever?  Bree is a girl wearing braces and has acne.

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It's a cheese, isn't it?

=)  Kk.

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Amen, Sistuh!  We thought we were doing that but ran out of time & needed to open & make some dinero.  We're still working on our space....

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I kinda did that and kinda didn't.  Our bedrooms will be the only rooms in the house with no work whatsoever done to them (not even paint).  But we put in a family room (OK, b-i-l never finished it, but it's a nice private space even if the trim isn't installed and the ceiling incomplete).  And now we have our new basement bathroom installed and I LOVE it!!  I adore my new bathroom (well, not so new... same tub, sink, toilet from upstairs).  It's not nice (beat up tub, unfinished ceiling, no baseboards, and won't be getting them) and has a hot water heater in it, but somehow it's cozy and colorful and all ours.  Too bad it's two floors down from my bedroom...

=)  Kk.

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