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Ensure one of the hundreds of cases of carbon monoxide poisoning in the U.S. each year doesn’t happen at your hotel.
Three deaths linked to a faulty pipe that allegedly exposed guests to a lethal dose of carbon monoxide at a Best Western in Boone, North Carolina, have hoteliers stressing the importance of carbon-monoxide safety.
Read more about it here: http://hotelnewsnow.com/Article/13007/Slaying-the-silent-killer-carbon-monoxide
To be honest, I've never thought about something like this happening in a hotel... guess I'll start venting rooms more often.
 
in the UK it is a legal requirement you have a Landlords gas safety certificate which tests all your gas appliances annually - we also have a co2 detector in the lounge as we have a gas fire there (these are cheap and can be bought from any hardware store)
 
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber - this is extra gas training which has to be renewed every 3 years
 
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
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I know, I know. Shut up, Arks.
 
We had a rush to pass a State law requiring carbon monoxide detectors near any fossil fuel appliances (furnaces, etc). My guest rooms have electric baseboard heaters BTW. This was because a pipeline worker was living in a room at a H I and some lines from the pool had not been hooked up correctly some time before (we are not talking days or weeks here) and because he lived there, it accumulated in his body. When he was found dead and someone FINALLY inspected the system from his room back, they found the pool equipment room to be at fault. Had it been inspected properly to start with, there would never have been a death.
I am not faulting being safe - I am faulting the rush to legislate.
 
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
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Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
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Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
 
Sugar Bear said:
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
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Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
Click to expand...
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
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Sugar Bear said:
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
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Way too complicated. I say let the plumbers pay her, and I'll happily continue to be ignorant on how they work it all out!
 
Arks said:
Sugar Bear said:
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
Click to expand...
Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
Click to expand...
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
.
Click to expand...
Sugar Bear said:
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
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Way too complicated. I say let the plumbers pay her, and I'll happily continue to be ignorant on how they work it all out!
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don't get me started - she technically owns the mineral rights under what's called the Dutchy Estate ie you don't own the land your house is built on you rent it from the queen - one of the hotels I used to work at had a nightmare being sold as half of it was freehold is was on land owned by the hotel's owner and the other half was on the dutchy rented from the queen was a right pig to sort out!
So when the Queen's management company went to register that they owned the mining rights - which is their legal right as the land owner everyone had a super kick off in case they suddenly wanted to start mining - the fact there isn't anything there worth having was beside the point ie mud and not coal or platinum or anything like that
 
[email protected] said:
Arks said:
Sugar Bear said:
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
Click to expand...
Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
Click to expand...
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
.
Click to expand...
Sugar Bear said:
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
Click to expand...
Way too complicated. I say let the plumbers pay her, and I'll happily continue to be ignorant on how they work it all out!
.
Click to expand...
don't get me started - she technically owns the mineral rights under what's called the Dutchy Estate ie you don't own the land your house is built on you rent it from the queen - one of the hotels I used to work at had a nightmare being sold as half of it was freehold is was on land owned by the hotel's owner and the other half was on the dutchy rented from the queen was a right pig to sort out!
So when the Queen's management company went to register that they owned the mining rights - which is their legal right as the land owner everyone had a super kick off in case they suddenly wanted to start mining - the fact there isn't anything there worth having was beside the point ie mud and not coal or platinum or anything like that
.
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I'm still surprised that you have leaseholds in the UK. There are a few properties around here that have emphyteutic leases (university land), but it's so odd that most people don't even understand them.
 
Sugar Bear said:
[email protected] said:
Arks said:
Sugar Bear said:
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
Click to expand...
Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
Click to expand...
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
.
Click to expand...
Sugar Bear said:
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
Click to expand...
Way too complicated. I say let the plumbers pay her, and I'll happily continue to be ignorant on how they work it all out!
.
Click to expand...
don't get me started - she technically owns the mineral rights under what's called the Dutchy Estate ie you don't own the land your house is built on you rent it from the queen - one of the hotels I used to work at had a nightmare being sold as half of it was freehold is was on land owned by the hotel's owner and the other half was on the dutchy rented from the queen was a right pig to sort out!
So when the Queen's management company went to register that they owned the mining rights - which is their legal right as the land owner everyone had a super kick off in case they suddenly wanted to start mining - the fact there isn't anything there worth having was beside the point ie mud and not coal or platinum or anything like that
.
Click to expand...
I'm still surprised that you have leaseholds in the UK. There are a few properties around here that have emphyteutic leases (university land), but it's so odd that most people don't even understand them.
.
Click to expand...
to be honest here the only properties generally who are leasehold are flats - usually with the ground floor flat owning the land and the others pay a minimal ground rent usually with a 999 year lease.
The case with the hotel was very unusual - which is why it was such a problem - especially with half on as freehold and half as leasehold, got it sorted in the end mind but there we are.
 
[email protected] said:
Sugar Bear said:
[email protected] said:
Arks said:
Sugar Bear said:
Arks said:
also gas appliances can only be put in by a corgi registered plumber
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
;-)
______________________________
I know, I know. Shut up, Arks..
Click to expand...
Arks said:
I've heard the royal family are well paid. Why does the queen need money from plumbers to feed her dogs? Seems like a strange system. That sort of thing led to our Boston Tea Party.
Click to expand...
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
.
Click to expand...
Sugar Bear said:
Arks... this is a case where most Americans are entirely ignorant. In 1760 there was a deal made between the monarchy and the treasury. The Monarchy owns the Crown Estate, worth about £8 Billion (Milliard) and the profits go to the government if she is head of state, but she is entitled to keep them if she isn't. Profits were in the range of £400 million and they paid the Queen an amount called the Civil List. I think she's paid somewhere in the range of £35m from which she has to pay all wages, etc. It's harder to explain because crown corporations are involved (the closest thing you have to a crown corporation in the US is your post office) and the Queen personally also owns property, such as Balmoral. Personally the royals are worth about £400m, but that's personal wealth, not the state. So, what you are suggesting would actually cost the British tax payers over £350 million a year in taxes.
Click to expand...
Way too complicated. I say let the plumbers pay her, and I'll happily continue to be ignorant on how they work it all out!
.
Click to expand...
don't get me started - she technically owns the mineral rights under what's called the Dutchy Estate ie you don't own the land your house is built on you rent it from the queen - one of the hotels I used to work at had a nightmare being sold as half of it was freehold is was on land owned by the hotel's owner and the other half was on the dutchy rented from the queen was a right pig to sort out!
So when the Queen's management company went to register that they owned the mining rights - which is their legal right as the land owner everyone had a super kick off in case they suddenly wanted to start mining - the fact there isn't anything there worth having was beside the point ie mud and not coal or platinum or anything like that
.
Click to expand...
I'm still surprised that you have leaseholds in the UK. There are a few properties around here that have emphyteutic leases (university land), but it's so odd that most people don't even understand them.
.
Click to expand...
to be honest here the only properties generally who are leasehold are flats - usually with the ground floor flat owning the land and the others pay a minimal ground rent usually with a 999 year lease.
The case with the hotel was very unusual - which is why it was such a problem - especially with half on as freehold and half as leasehold, got it sorted in the end mind but there we are.
.
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Here, each flat owns a percentage of the land. The flat association usually insures the building with the flat owners responsible for insuring their private possessions and liability insurance.
 
share a link if it pertains, i would like to read about it. thx.
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