What is the Scam???

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We don't respond to broken English requests for the whole house for long periods, and please to call me for rate.  

But why?  It smells like a scam but what is the scam? 

We also get broken English inquiries for summer jobs.  Is that a scam?  It looks like it, but maybe I'm paranoid.

 

 

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BEWARE....new scam tome from Joni Berrisdord.    Something to do with bad things happened to family in Ukraine.  Desperately need money, I imagine.

 

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I was asked about this, and told about the reporting thing, etc. We were having dinner and I saw a local #. I picked it up, waiting for about 10 calls to return. It is a woman, wants to know what is for dinner. I went through the whole routine, no they are closed, no it has nothing to do with us, we area B&B..etc and she says "When did they close?" I am standing at the table with my fork in my hand... "I don't know they were just closed one day" "Well why did they close?"

I sat down and said "Why I don't answer the phone much..." and finished my cold dinner.

I am answering every call right now, have irons in the fire, and boy what a waste of time this is!

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and we always try to be polite.

hey, I'm blaming everything on the polar vortex, too!

 

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and we always try to be polite.

hey, I'm blaming everything on the polar vortex, too!

 

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good one!

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I get lots of those calls on our 800#.  Phone company says they can do nothing about it.  As soon as I answer the phone they either hang up or say nothing.  In my area if I hang up and then pick up the phone for a dial tone and then push #01# and hang up---that number cannot call me for 30 days.  It is blocked.  At least that cuts down on some of them for awhile.

 

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It drives me crazy when I dial a wrong number, realize it and hang up, then soon the people call me back and ask what I wanted. Why do people do this?! If you get an aborted call, consider it a blessing! You don't have to waste time on it!

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I'm amazed how many people call back demanding who we are and yelling at us to stop calling them. Geez it was a mistake. You never make mistakes?

Just got my new health insurance card. It has a Dr's phone number on it. I called the number and got the voice mail for a decorating service. Looked the number up by the Dr's name and it's the right phone number!

How am I supposed to call this Dr?

I left a message the second time I called apologizing for calling again as this is the phone number for the Dr I am trying to reach. Nothing. I can't imagine this person doesn't get called plenty.

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You aren't going to like my answer... because it's rude. You called, it rang on my side, the decent thing is to apologize for disturbing someone.

Do you knock on doors and run away as well?

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Sugar Bear wrote:

You aren't going to like my answer... because it's rude. You called, it rang on my side, the decent thing is to apologize for disturbing someone.

Do you knock on doors and run away as well?

I can handle your answer, while disagreeing with it. If I dial a number then realize it's wrong, I'll hang up so the phone stops ringing before the old lady I miss-dialed has to make her way to the phone, just so I can apologize for my miss-dial. I think continuing to ring the phone would be rude, and I wouldn't blame her for slamming the phone down in my ear if I did it.

And yes, if I walk up to a house, knock, then realize I've got the wrong address, I probably wouldn't just stand there and wait for them to come to the door so I can inform them that I have nothing much to say to them. If they open the door before I get to the street, of course I'll explain and apologize for the disturbance. After that, they'll just have to tough it out.

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Then don't try this!

I was trying to remember the phone number to dial for it read back your number (I was rewiring).  My attempt got routed to 911.  I said "sorry, I didn't mean to call" and hung up.  4 minutes later sheriff was at my door and wanted to see all family members.

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My grandson dialed 911 and my daughter did the same thing... Sorry, the kid called, no problem here.

Yup, the police were at the door asking her to step outside, who else was in the house, how many kids, they wanted to see all of them. 

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BTDT and got the call back. You don't hang up on E911 so easily.

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Well, your number appears on the caller-ID, so just politely explain the error and it's done. There is no way to tell if it's an error or if something happened.

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Bringing this thread back to the topic of scams -

Here is one of the latest - Calls that ring once (or 1 1/2 in order for caller id to register) then hang up.  They have been coming in quite frequently here lately up to 3-4 times a day now.  
We have discussed missed calls before, some stating if they just missed the call they may call the # back.  If they allowed it to ring 4-5 times or until the answer system picks up, that would be fine.

But if you don't know or if it is a 1+ ring, do not return the call.  The scam is this:  they are hoping for you to return the call, the call is forwarded to an overseas call in which YOU are billed and they use your number to make more calls on your $. 

I was made aware of this scam while reading a horror story from a customer of V er izon who was billed over $500 for international calls. 

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Also happening... 2 rings, hang up, but they are using the 800# and are making money by just calling.

Phone company refuses to help us. We are paying for these calls and the scammers are being paid to make them.

Getting rid of the 800# this year.

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Over the past couple of years, I can only remember 1 or 2 reservations that originated by an e-mail. Generally, they ask very broad questions like "do you have any availability in March?". At that point, I send them back an e-mail with a link to our reservation system explaining we have different rooms and rates and it's easier for them to figure out what's available by using our calendar.

We do get frequent phone calls, and I'm happy to speak with them and help them, but I then tell them I'm not in my office right now and would they be comfortable making their reservation online (they're almost always on our website already). 99.9% say yes. I also offer to walk them through it over the phone if they have any hesitation.

I want all my reservations to have read and agreed to my policies, and having them do it online is the way to accomplish it. This has worked very well for us. It has eliminated so many problems!

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Breakfast Diva wrote:

We do get frequent phone calls, and I'm happy to speak with them and help them, but I then tell them I'm not in my office right now and would they be comfortable making their reservation online (they're almost always on our website already). 99.9% say yes. I also offer to walk them through it over the phone if they have any hesitation.

I want all my reservations to have read and agreed to my policies, and having them do it online is the way to accomplish it. This has worked very well for us. It has eliminated so many problems!

This, I think, reflects one of the differences in the market. When I ask if the caller has access to the internet or have they looked at our website, half of them don't know we have a website. (They got the phone number from some other website, a map or from some other source.) The other half are looking at our site.

I can make the rez online for them and ask the appropriate questions about if they understand the policies and then tick the box. Generally speaking, here, if I let them go without getting their info they don't book online. If I say I'm not home and they can use the website to book their own room most of them never do. (I never see that phone number in a rez or the name they gave on the phone.)

It seems this might be a New England thing. I don't know too many other inns where half of their business is still done over the phone.

Also a concern now is if they search for my website they are going to get booking first in the list and there goes all my chatting on the phone selling them to another company that did nothing but pay to use my name in adwords. But we've been down this road before.

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I don't know too many other inns where half of their business is still done over the phone.

 

Probably more than half of my reservations come over the phone. I will never get rid of the online reservation system because it brings in enough to more than pay for itself AND if I am not able to get to a computer, I can ask them to book online. There is a lot of WV that does not have Internet available - seriously. Especially high speed there is even more that do not. I know one person who told me they are a couple hundred yards too far up the holler. There are also a lot of areas that have no cell service. So phone reservations are probably 75% of my business.

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I'm getting half of my bookings from the phone as well.  Midwest, not many B&B's here and not much B&B "culture"

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Beachhouse, don't let JB get to you. (I don't think she understood the question you were really asking)

We get legitimate e-mail reservation requests all the time. And we get phone calls, too. Even though they are on our website, many of these people don't book their stay through our online reservation system - they prefer to e-mail or call us. I would say that by far most of our business comes in by e-mail.

JB, yes we get plenty of scam e-mails, too. Generally not hard to figure out and ignore.

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Beachhouse, don't let JB get to you. (I don't think she understood the question you were really asking)

We get legitimate e-mail reservation requests all the time. And we get phone calls, too. Even though they are on our website, many of these people don't book their stay through our online reservation system - they prefer to e-mail or call us. I would say that by far most of our business comes in by e-mail.

JB, yes we get plenty of scam e-mails, too. Generally not hard to figure out and ignore.

Unfortunately, you say that and yet many innkeepers are sucked into them. They do not realize the signs of a fraudulent email. It happens often, sadly to say.

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If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

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If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

I get tons of emails. And to be honest, less than maybe 5% of them turn into reservations and if they do, they do it from our replies that send them back to the website where we offer a discount not offered anywhere else.

Almost 100% of emails address to us without forms from people who have never stayed with us before are FAKE. I say almost 100% only because I think I might have had one that wasn't.

Almost 90% of the emails address to us with forms other than our own, don't result in reservations. Most of the time these are reservations that are based on price and only price. They go through a website and fill in the form for EVERY B&B. I'm not selling price, I'm selling my service and my breakfast... they are going to book at whoever gives them the cheapest price and it won't be me. (From one website, almost every single request is for my best room in the summer, 2 days before arrival and asking for the winter price. The room has been booked for 2 months already and they paid full price, without discounting!)

Of the emails that I receive from our form, a certain percentage ask us for price. Since they often don't communicate enough details for us to give them one, we send them back to the reservation system. Those who do communicate enough information will get back a price noting that the discount for booking online and that prices are 10% more if booked elsewhere.

In the last 6 years, I have had just TWO reservations pay me the extra 10% to book via the telephone. Both didn't know how to use a computer at all. Not really my clientele. One was a royal PITA and the other... just plain odd.

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If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

I have been getting these emails for over 10 years...different typos, none of them ADDRESSED to MY B&B NAME.

That is the first clue. Check the "TO:" second clue, they say "Facility" they say 8 days or more, some 2 or 3 weeks" another clue. Last they ask for a total of how much it will be.

If you are on our website, you see HOW MUCH the room(s) are. If you want to MAKE A RESERVATION, go ahead an MAKE A RESERVATION.

 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

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If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

I have been getting these emails for over 10 years...different typos, none of them ADDRESSED to MY B&B NAME.

That is the first clue. Check the "TO:" second clue, they say "Facility" they say 8 days or more, some 2 or 3 weeks" another clue. Last they ask for a total of how much it will be.

If you are on our website, you see HOW MUCH the room(s) are. If you want to MAKE A RESERVATION, go ahead an MAKE A RESERVATION.

 

 

I often feel like the responses I get here assume I am an imbecile.   I am not.  My question was, do you never get emails - some legit?  Do you always ignore them?  We instituted on line reservations within weeks of taking over the business.  We continue to get emails and phone calls even though we have on line reservations.  We do not feel as though we can afford to retort to a caller, "Use your computer."  We feel as though good service includes answering questions, whether or not we feel like it at that moment.

 

I have gotten some real help from this website, but I often feel like the stupid kid. Is it necessary?

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I often feel like the responses I get here assume I am an imbecile.   I am not....I have gotten some real help from this website, but I often feel like the stupid kid. Is it necessary?

I have no idea what Beach House is taking offense with here! This was obviously taken the wrong way. JB's response seems perfectly normal and helpful. Beach House's response kind of comes out of the blue, in my opinion.

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I often feel like the responses I get here assume I am an imbecile.   I am not....I have gotten some real help from this website, but I often feel like the stupid kid. Is it necessary?

I have no idea what Beach House is taking offense with here! This was obviously taken the wrong way. JB's response seems perfectly normal and helpful. Beach House's response kind of comes out of the blue, in my opinion.

 

I probably should let it go, but I will explain.   Since I joined, I've been told several times that my 'methods' won't take.   I think because the market is so different.   In my town there are dozens of B&Bs. And no hotels.

Anyway here is what I perceived - my Q - how does this scam work?   A - they ask for cash.....

Ok, all good.  Then - don't answer emails - let them use on line.   So my response - I do use on line but emails are important to us - don't you get any?    Her response (in my perception) was to reiterate in caps (forum shouting) how to spot scam emails.  As though I didn't get it the first time.   Nothing about whether she receives any legit emails looking for info. 

Add that minor slight (my perception) to the fact that we've been moving, setting up house, starting a business, gutting the kitchen and having the worst winter in years.....maybe I'm sensitive.   It's possilbe.   And for that, I do apologize.  I have gotten a lot of good, useful information from this group.   It's a great place for ideas.  I don't want to screw up my welcome.  JB, I am sorry that I misread your intent.  I'm actuall a very nice person in person.  Some of my other on line friends call me Polly-Anna because I come off as always happy.

Anyway, we will continue to ignore the broken English long term emails and we will continue to respond to the ones that look legit.  And we won't refund cash.  

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Thank you TBH. No I wasn't yelling, YELLING WOULD HAVE BEEN IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS! WITH ONE OF THESE!! OR TWO!!! IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

I was empha"sizing" which is easier to use CAPS on an ipad vs hit on than select hold copy paste for bold, etc. 

My reply was for anyone who gets these emails, of which I had about three just today.

Innkeepers bite, they take the bait, we may not fall for it, but for every innkeeper who posts here there are TEN (emphasizing that number) who lurk and read only.

Not everyone has the ability to bounce ideas off other innkeepers like we do on this forum, there are dozens of innkeepers I have known who have fallen for this scam. really. they fell. they got sucked in and through there was a real person and real reservation.

If you were here a few years ago you would have heard about the parrot scam...we get all types, we share them here.

I truly did not mean to offend or belittle you in any way, I think you are awesome and your input is awesome. heart

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heart back atcha!   Smiling

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50% of our reservations are still from callers or folks who contact us via email. It's possible it's our market or maybe my website isn't clear about how to book your own room.

The emails that pertain to guests wanting 4 rooms for 10 days for their family (names always listed) are never legit. I don't open most emails with ' booking' in the subject line. Or all caps. Or from Yahoo accounts.

There are a few other 'flag' words that I've gotten used to seeing on spam email subject lines.

Lots of guests want to talk with the innkeeper or don't want to put their info on the internet so they call or email. For us, like I said, it's 50%.

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50% of our reservations are still from callers or folks who contact us via email. It's possible it's our market or maybe my website isn't clear about how to book your own room.

The emails that pertain to guests wanting 4 rooms for 10 days for their family (names always listed) are never legit. I don't open most emails with ' booking' in the subject line. Or all caps. Or from Yahoo accounts.

There are a few other 'flag' words that I've gotten used to seeing on spam email subject lines.

Lots of guests want to talk with the innkeeper or don't want to put their info on the internet so they call or email. For us, like I said, it's 50%.

 

I am in a similar market (as you know.)  Makes sense.   My husband will spend hours explaining the features of each room over the phone or on email.  

We simply don't respond to the scammy ones.  

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TheBeachHouse wrote:

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

I have been getting these emails for over 10 years...different typos, none of them ADDRESSED to MY B&B NAME.

That is the first clue. Check the "TO:" second clue, they say "Facility" they say 8 days or more, some 2 or 3 weeks" another clue. Last they ask for a total of how much it will be.

If you are on our website, you see HOW MUCH the room(s) are. If you want to MAKE A RESERVATION, go ahead an MAKE A RESERVATION.

 

 

I often feel like the responses I get here assume I am an imbecile.   I am not.  My question was, do you never get emails - some legit?  Do you always ignore them?  We instituted on line reservations within weeks of taking over the business.  We continue to get emails and phone calls even though we have on line reservations.  We do not feel as though we can afford to retort to a caller, "Use your computer."  We feel as though good service includes answering questions, whether or not we feel like it at that moment.

 

I have gotten some real help from this website, but I often feel like the stupid kid. Is it necessary?

Please understand that for every person actually speaking here, there are many who are just reading/learning. THAT is why some answers sound as if they are instructional - they are, not necessarily for YOU but often for others reading. Since we have new lurkers all the time, we may repeat something that was answered before.

As for the question of e-mail requests that are legit? I have had some but so few over the years (since 1996) that I am not worried that I may have deleted a legit e-mail. I prefer to lose a night or two to losing my computer and giving up my address book and giving up everyone there. I get mostly calls and online. 

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TheBeachHouse wrote:

Joey Bloggs wrote:

TheBeachHouse wrote:

Joey Bloggs wrote:

If you have online reservations, let them reserve online. 

 

we do.  but we get emails often as well.  don't you?

I have been getting these emails for over 10 years...different typos, none of them ADDRESSED to MY B&B NAME.

That is the first clue. Check the "TO:" second clue, they say "Facility" they say 8 days or more, some 2 or 3 weeks" another clue. Last they ask for a total of how much it will be.

If you are on our website, you see HOW MUCH the room(s) are. If you want to MAKE A RESERVATION, go ahead an MAKE A RESERVATION.

 

 

I often feel like the responses I get here assume I am an imbecile.   I am not.  My question was, do you never get emails - some legit?  Do you always ignore them?  We instituted on line reservations within weeks of taking over the business.  We continue to get emails and phone calls even though we have on line reservations.  We do not feel as though we can afford to retort to a caller, "Use your computer."  We feel as though good service includes answering questions, whether or not we feel like it at that moment.

 

I have gotten some real help from this website, but I often feel like the stupid kid. Is it necessary?

I was just answering your question. I didn't mean that you are not smart, you asked and I answered. Sorry i answered with a legit answer to a legit problem. I have no idea why or how you took that the wrong way. Really I don't.

I was answering it with CLUES to see how these are SCAMMERS> I shared the important information in my reply that was actually helpful. Not suire why this was taken wrong, as I shared how I tell they are fake and what I do. I thought that was what you were asking me? No?

If you are new to the biz you may not know to check the TO section to see it does not address YOU SPECIFICALLY. This is a clue.

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Silver, You don't have to take advice from me, I'm semi new here.   But as a traveler, if I tried to make a reservation to a place that only took cash, I would change my mind.   You should consider the advantages of taking cards.   The bank can set you up.  It is really easy, safer and more 'mainstream.'

 

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Yes, I know that and have weighed the pros and cons.  Since this is our 25th year running this business and we are small and seasonal, I have opted for one more year of cash/check instead of on-line booking with card.  One of the things it does do is to cull the casual traveler who has not taken the time to explore the lodging in the area.  We are fortunate to have a unique location and well established reputation both on line and with the local Chambers so those folks who bother to check have assurance that we are on the up and up.  Still, I am sure that we lose a lot of business, people like you, who want to pay with plastic.  

And before I start a war here on the forum...I am not advocating that others follow my lead.  If we were just starting out we surely would go mainstream with on-line booking and credit cards.  Or at leas the credit card part.  By speaking to each guest we do feel that we are able to "weed" out the guests who are not a good fit and would be happier in another hotel, motel or B+B.

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Yes, I know that and have weighed the pros and cons.  Since this is our 25th year running this business and we are small and seasonal, I have opted for one more year of cash/check instead of on-line booking with card.  One of the things it does do is to cull the casual traveler who has not taken the time to explore the lodging in the area.  We are fortunate to have a unique location and well established reputation both on line and with the local Chambers so those folks who bother to check have assurance that we are on the up and up.  Still, I am sure that we lose a lot of business, people like you, who want to pay with plastic.  

And before I start a war here on the forum...I am not advocating that others follow my lead.  If we were just starting out we surely would go mainstream with on-line booking and credit cards.  Or at leas the credit card part.  By speaking to each guest we do feel that we are able to "weed" out the guests who are not a good fit and would be happier in another hotel, motel or B+B.

 

Makes sense.   If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.    Smiling  BH

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Don't we give out our bank details every time we write a check?

Also, as I understand it, bank transfers are the standard way to pay for vacation rentals, etc..., in Europe, so it is understandable how someone coming from a European country might want ask if they could pay by that means.

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Don't we give out our bank details every time we write a check?

Also, as I understand it, bank transfers are the standard way to pay for vacation rentals, etc..., in Europe, so it is understandable how someone coming from a European country might want ask if they could pay by that means.

From what I have seen on other Forums inhabited by a lot of South Africa, Aussie, and /NZ, they are the ones that use bank transfers.

IF I were to use the bank transfer route, I would have an account that had the minimum $$ in it to keep it open and used for nothing else. Then if that account got hit, I would not be out anything big.

 

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as a European - no we wouldn't cos USA banks are notorious the world over for being crap at dealing with anything like that plus there is a massive charge $100 + to send money that way to the USA plus the exchange rate completely fluctuates - everyone has a visa or mastercard so we would pay that way.

Most accommodation of any type in the UK at least some parts of Europe are different but we expect a card to hold the room its that simple.

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i think my first year i got excited thinking i had a reservation for a week.  we did get folks from china, italy, finland, russia to name a few and sometimes the english was confusing, so i wasn't sure.  ran the card for the entire stay at time of reservation as requested. no red flags.  then about 2 days later received an email that they had to cancel and to please refund.  but to please send the money and not reverse the credit card charge because they needed the money back and it would take too long if it was tied up in their credit card account.  uh oh. called my bank and they helped me reverse the charge as it was big and i was new to this.

the card apparently did belong to the person charging, but they were charging all over the place in the united states and then requesting cash refunds ... trying to get the refunds before the charges fell through. another day or so and my bank account linked with the charges would have had that payment deducted since it exceeded their limit.  if i'd fallen for it, sent them a check and they'd cashed it, i'd have been out about $1250.00  i was hurt and angry because i got these pathetic emails about how they needed the money back and it was linked to their bank account ... and i felt bad. the email account was closed shortly thereafter.

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as it was, i think it cost me a bank fee but no more.

as i said, sometimes i did actually get guests from far away and it all was totally legitimate. but  NO cash refunds.  if they paid by cc, they got a cc reverse charge. 

as for those looking for work, yes ... i got inquiries from people trying to secure a summer job on a work visa but i was told i had to provide housing and i was not set up to do that. i don't know if that is true or if i was misinformed. the bigger places in the area always had/have foreign summer help.    the only scam i encountered (if you can call it that) was a lovely girl from Georgia (Russia) who quickly switched from wanting a job to wanting to date my son the minute she spotted him. yikers! 

 

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Offtopic: Georgia is not Russia, it is an independent country, which actually got invaded by Russia in 2008.

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okay ... was just trying to explain not Georgia U.S.

 

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Offtopic: Georgia is not Russia, it is an independent country, which actually got invaded by Russia in 2008.

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There is a new one where they ask you to click on a link to get their CC information and it tries to install a trojan so that they can get other people's CC information off your PC.

 

Then there is the can we send you stuff scam. They send you stuff for their reservation, decide to cancel and have someone else come to pick up the stuff, except it's all bought on fake CC and they need a place to deliver it that can't be traced.... and you are in.

There's the cheque deposit scam. They send you a cheque, ask you to forward a smaller amount to someone else. Of course it can take up to a year for a foreign cheque to clear, but your bank based on your credit will cash it immediately and of course when it bounces, you are out the original amount. 

And never send or accept anything "Western Union". It's become the way that scammers get their money. I can name more scams, including the lover in Afghanistan scam, the puppy love scam and even the grandson you don't remember scam.

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BE PARANOID. Just delete and don't waste your time on any of it. Replying lets people know they have the right email and they sell it to anyone who wants to pay.

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I just received a broken English e-mail request from Sweden for 9 day reservation at the end of April...an unusual time for that length of stay in this location.  But there was a ring of legitimacy to it so I followed up with a few questions and found that this women will be attending a conference in the area and has decided to take some vacation time with it.  

In this case, I was glad that I did not just delete the e-mail, which is normally what I would do.  Then there is the issue of deposit, since we do not take credit cards.  But she will wire funds to our account and pay the balance in cash so I think we have it nailed down.  

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I just received a broken English e-mail request from Sweden for 9 day reservation at the end of April...an unusual time for that length of stay in this location.  But there was a ring of legitimacy to it so I followed up with a few questions and found that this women will be attending a conference in the area and has decided to take some vacation time with it.  

In this case, I was glad that I did not just delete the e-mail, which is normally what I would do.  Then there is the issue of deposit, since we do not take credit cards.  But she will wire funds to our account and pay the balance in cash so I think we have it nailed down.  

While this could be legit, I still would not provide an individual or unknown business information about my banking account. 
This was recently added to my bank's online messages:

"Please be aware of fraudsters who attempt to entice you to engage in unlawful activity such as receiving deposits into your account and wiring funds or cashing a check to wire the funds to others who are unknown to you. Please do not provide your account information or your online banking credentials to anyone."

It went on to say that it could cost (the acct holder) money.  And before following through with such requests to contact the bank manager. 

Personally this is the time I would either get Square to accept CC's or sign up for a Paypal account.  This keeps your account information private. 

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Can't argue with that. It is not something that I normally do.  In fact, I also offered to waive the deposit since we will not be in our high season.   I really hesitated to suggest wiring money in but checked with my bank and confirmed with the folks who are running the conference.  I would not divulge our banking details normally but this seemed like a risk worth taking.  You will surely hear back from me if it comes back to bite me.frown

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Back when I had my online book biz I used to allow wire transfers into an account that was strictly for that purpose. No money was kept in the account and it wasn't tied to any other accounts with money in them.

It mostly worked. Except for the time the bank put the money in the wrong account and it took me a month to find it.

The person in Germany who sent the money tried to have it traced from their end but they had the correct info and my bank made the mistake on this end so they couldn't trace it to where it went, only where they sent it.

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