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white pine

white pine

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We have a seasonal 8 unit motel which DH and I have been running now for 3 years, and we hope to have the lodge B&B (eventually 8 suites) but 2-5 suites open this summer. We still have finish work in the lodge and occupancy inspections to finish, but hopefully that will happen this spring. We have a waiting list of guests for the lodge.
We have not been able to find any local help, and we are at least 30 miles from any small towns that we might find workers. With the price of gas, no one is willing to make the drive. We are thinking of running an ad in the states teaching union newsletter advertising for summer help, as many of the campground hosts are volunteer teachers. We were thinking of offering on site rooms in partial lieu of compensation, but this gets messy. Does anyone here have live in help? Ideas??
 
Sorry, I'm no help. We can't get people to show up who live 4 miles away.
You might want to check in with the foreign student program if you can offer a room for the student. J1 visa program.
http://j1visa.state.gov/programs/summer-work-travel/
 
any colleges around? if you offer perhaps room and board, maybe you can have some for the season. Just a thought.
 
I am with Maddie. I think this is the year we finally go over the edge, and I go with it.
No one wants to work, so I get to do it. We do get offers for room and board for overseas workers, but that seems so drastic to me. It scares me. sorry I can't help
 
Joey Bloggs said:
I am with Maddie. I think this is the year we finally go over the edge, and I go with it.
No one wants to work, so I get to do it. We do get offers for room and board for overseas workers, but that seems so drastic to me. It scares me. sorry I can't help.
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Not wanting to sidetrack this but I cannot do another season just the 2 of us. I'll cry just thinking about it.
 
Madeleine said:
Sorry, I'm no help. We can't get people to show up who live 4 miles away.
You might want to check in with the foreign student program if you can offer a room for the student. J1 visa program.
http://j1visa.state.gov/programs/summer-work-travel/.
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The big resorts half hour away used to hire college students (I was one) but now they all hire foreigners. I really don't want to go there....maybe the teacher suggestion is the best. I know they man some campgrounds near here, and we are nicer. Really tho, no one wants to WORK, but DH and I can't handle any more.
 
don't get me started with people not wanting work! I know 4 b&B's looking for chamber maid's right now and no luck for about 3 months! bring on the EU people no one else will do it!
And its not just us either - they are opening 4 large hotels within 15 miles and I guarantee all their staff will be polish, Lithuanian, Bulgarian and Romanian.
 
Around here, the government actually has a list. Maybe this will help you. Basically minimum wage minus $26 for meals and the rest depends on the housing. A room is just that, it must have storage as well and a shared bathroom. When it's a dwelling it must access to a washer/dryer, refrigerator, stove and microwave. So basically if they have access to the washer/dryer and kitchen it's $45 a week for up to 4 in the room and $26 a week for meals.
$2.00 per meal, up to $ 26.00 per week
$25.00 per week for the room
$30.00 per week dwelling where the room accommodates 5 employees or more
$45.00 per week dwelling where the room accommodates 4 employees or less
 
What about contacting colleges with hospitality programs? They may have summer job postings for hospitality students who would benefit from some front-line experience.
 
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
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Sugar Bear said:
Around here, the government actually has a list. Maybe this will help you. Basically minimum wage minus $26 for meals and the rest depends on the housing. A room is just that, it must have storage as well and a shared bathroom. When it's a dwelling it must access to a washer/dryer, refrigerator, stove and microwave. So basically if they have access to the washer/dryer and kitchen it's $45 a week for up to 4 in the room and $26 a week for meals.
$2.00 per meal, up to $ 26.00 per week
$25.00 per week for the room
$30.00 per week dwelling where the room accommodates 5 employees or more
$45.00 per week dwelling where the room accommodates 4 employees or less.
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Thanks, interesting info. I planned to talk with the accountant.
 
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
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I saw this today:
The Paradox of Effort
If you're only willing to do what is easy, life will be very hard.
But if you are willing to do what's hard, life will be very easy.
How is that working for you?
 
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
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Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
 
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
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Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
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Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
 
white pine said:
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
.
Click to expand...
Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
.
Click to expand...
Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
.
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I wrote an e-mail to the teacher at our nearest college that has a hotel/restaurant management program. We did finally get someone. What helped us was that I was also interested in having a local who I could train not only for housekeeping, but also breakfasts and management skills. I was looking for an assistant innkeeper, but she had to start from the bottom, up to prove herself.
 
Breakfast Diva said:
white pine said:
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
.
Click to expand...
Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
.
Click to expand...
Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
.
Click to expand...
I wrote an e-mail to the teacher at our nearest college that has a hotel/restaurant management program. We did finally get someone. What helped us was that I was also interested in having a local who I could train not only for housekeeping, but also breakfasts and management skills. I was looking for an assistant innkeeper, but she had to start from the bottom, up to prove herself.
.
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This is the scenario I would really like. I have no one for back-up, but I could find no locals interested. Two other places in town are also looking for help! Bad thing is that I am seasonal. No one wants to commit to a summer job.
 
white pine said:
Breakfast Diva said:
white pine said:
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
.
Click to expand...
Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
.
Click to expand...
Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
.
Click to expand...
I wrote an e-mail to the teacher at our nearest college that has a hotel/restaurant management program. We did finally get someone. What helped us was that I was also interested in having a local who I could train not only for housekeeping, but also breakfasts and management skills. I was looking for an assistant innkeeper, but she had to start from the bottom, up to prove herself.
.
Click to expand...
This is the scenario I would really like. I have no one for back-up, but I could find no locals interested. Two other places in town are also looking for help! Bad thing is that I am seasonal. No one wants to commit to a summer job.
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white pine said:
This is the scenario I would really like. I have no one for back-up, but I could find no locals interested. Two other places in town are also looking for help! Bad thing is that I am seasonal. No one wants to commit to a summer job.
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I feel your pain, because you're also describing us. It took me years to find someone. No one wants to work. In the past I've gone to the temp agency and they couldn't find us anyone either...the only specifications I wanted was they be able to communicate in English and pass a background and drug test. We were offering way above minimum wage. Nope, nobody. Pathetic!
 
Breakfast Diva said:
white pine said:
Breakfast Diva said:
white pine said:
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
.
Click to expand...
Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
.
Click to expand...
Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
.
Click to expand...
I wrote an e-mail to the teacher at our nearest college that has a hotel/restaurant management program. We did finally get someone. What helped us was that I was also interested in having a local who I could train not only for housekeeping, but also breakfasts and management skills. I was looking for an assistant innkeeper, but she had to start from the bottom, up to prove herself.
.
Click to expand...
This is the scenario I would really like. I have no one for back-up, but I could find no locals interested. Two other places in town are also looking for help! Bad thing is that I am seasonal. No one wants to commit to a summer job.
.
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white pine said:
This is the scenario I would really like. I have no one for back-up, but I could find no locals interested. Two other places in town are also looking for help! Bad thing is that I am seasonal. No one wants to commit to a summer job.
Click to expand...
I feel your pain, because you're also describing us. It took me years to find someone. No one wants to work. In the past I've gone to the temp agency and they couldn't find us anyone either...the only specifications I wanted was they be able to communicate in English and pass a background and drug test. We were offering way above minimum wage. Nope, nobody. Pathetic!
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The woman who agreed to work I paid $15.00hr plus her gas...she drove from 45min away. That lasted ONE day. She did a good job, but just couldn't find the time to come to work. I won't do that again. That is while I would love to find a live in. Maybe I should consider an innsitter for the summer!
 
white pine said:
Madeleine said:
white pine said:
Thanks for the ideas. The nearest college is an hour away..hospitality program is across the bridge in CA. Don't think we offer enough in this small town to make any college kids happy. I guess I am jaded by the younger generation. They want to get paid for starting at the top...don't really want to clean toilets and CLEAN. That is why I was thinking older folks with a better work ethic. In my previous business, I had a steady stream of young folk who couldn't come in due to emergencies like the boyfriends birthday, or a party, or my manager who couldn't come in to work near Christmas because she didn't have her babies Christmas stocking done.....
angry_smile.gif
.
Click to expand...
Mixed bag here. Last summer had 2 hirees who each lasted about 3 weeks. One in her 20's, one in her 50' s.
50 yo smoked like a chimney and needed to go out to eat midway during the shift. (We are not required to give breaks in this state even tho we have no problem with someone sitting down for a snack.) It's tough tho when the person has only just gotten there and 'forgot to eat'.
Same person left mid shift because her neighbor's boyfriend broke up with her. Which means she was on the phone instead of working.
Last call we got from her was confirming her next day of work after she missed work. She had asked us for an advance on her check to pay for a prescription she had to get after spending a day in the hospital for food poisoning from bad clams, bad hamburger, something she ate depending on who was telling the story.
Just remembered her attire... Low cut tshirts and lower cut pants with thong underwear.
The younger one missed 50% of her scheduled days and then just stopped coming altogether.
Neither of them bothered to let us know she wasn't coming back.
Other than that, our best luck for showing up and getting at least some work done has been college kids.
.
Click to expand...
Sounds about right.....I will put some feelers out at the colleges...but I think it will be a long shot. I was hoping for some teachers or some young retirees who would love to help while staying on the lake. Sigh.....
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we have the sort of reverse problem our sea side places are very seasonal ie 7 months mad - 5 months dead so as the end of September approaches we get lots of door knockers who have seen the end of their jobs coming and are trying to find something else here as we are usually busy till about half way through December - trouble is now the economy is picking up people are struggling for chamber maid's as its starting to get really busy and we just can't get anyone who is any good or they don't stay.
 

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