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Yes, good points, and extra points for being a quick read!
 
Especially important to be around those still on fire....another reason to visit here!
 
Especially important to be around those still on fire....another reason to visit here!.
white pine said:
Especially important to be around those still on fire....another reason to visit here!
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Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
 
Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
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Don't have a right to work in the UK. Besides, will anyone like my breakfast in the UK?
 
Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
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Don't have a right to work in the UK. Besides, will anyone like my breakfast in the UK?
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depends what it is? - more and more BB's are bringing in a wider range of breakfast options ie one on 4 in a bed did more of a EU style ie fresh bread, ham. cheese which is not commonly served in the UK. I personally believe people should book what they want ie guests who book a particular BB that does that menu want that menu ie the thousands of eastern Europeans who live in the UK or who are visiting from abroad it would suit them perfectly.
I believe as long as its decent portions and cooked well or if buffet plenty of it - no one minds that much
 
Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
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Round here it seems to go in phases, a year or two we'll loose a few B&Bs, at the moment they are starting up. A brand new one opened up just down the road from us last July, they're doing well. And found out this week that a new house build going up just outside the village is going to be a B&B too.
 
Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
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Don't have a right to work in the UK. Besides, will anyone like my breakfast in the UK?
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Jon Sable said:
Don't have a right to work in the UK. Besides, will anyone like my breakfast in the UK?
When you see how popular the budget hotels are and see the trashy breakfasts some of them serve up I'm sure your breakfasts would go down a treat, as long as you marketed yourself correctly.
 
Some stiff competition is another one that gets the spark back..
Im currently sad as quite a few of the B&B's locally round me are for sale and I worry they will become houses :(
Anyone fancy a BB in a busy all the year round location in the UK? 2 have sold subject to contract ie not quite there on the sale but nearly just the money to change hands - so see what they become
(1) has always been very low rent but ive never understood why - could make a ton more money with very little expenditure and a bargain price - we looked at it before we took on where we are.
The second place they have bought a country house hotel and have been renovating it - now they need to release the capital from the B&B to finish the job and launch it
3rd place - lady bought it as a project - has finished it all and now wants to sell
4th - Lady is selling to but a smaller place as getting reliable staff is hard and she is on her own
5th - we don't know - im not close enough to them to ask but think with 2 small children the living space is a bit restricted and very tying - a lovely property but you would never find it as a walk in.
6th - don't think she really knew what she was getting into and PO's painted a rather rosy picture as they wanted to retire - never pointed out for example that there was only one bedroom of owners accom and they were a family of 4 - so they all lived in 1 room for 2 years!
7th - want to retire but its a big place and its hard to find someone with financing.
8th - want to semi retire and buy a few self catering properties
9th/10th/11th and 12th - belong to my god mother who is crackers
13th - nice place but with only 6 bedrooms is enough to support the mortgage without another income and that's a lot of cleaning to do each day.
14th - depends what day it is - again don't think they knew what they were getting into - he was made redundant so they bought a bb so she could carry on working and he could look after their 7 year old twins - they have struggled to get a good cleaner and its been very hard work for them.
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Round here it seems to go in phases, a year or two we'll loose a few B&Bs, at the moment they are starting up. A brand new one opened up just down the road from us last July, they're doing well. And found out this week that a new house build going up just outside the village is going to be a B&B too.
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I'm just a bit sad as I am close with several of the sellers and will be sad to loose my chums - however the new people may be super nice also you never know.
 
Natural attrition
Just like most restaurants have a 2 year life span.
Our B&B has been around for over 25 years and really if it went by revenue vs lifestyle B&B it shouldn't remain open. That is the truth, if there were not other income sources, or if the innkeeper didn't have a mortgage...
It has nothing to do with mismanagement either, if anything it is managed super well to the extreme. We do everything ourselves, and I mean everything, we are cheap I am very thrifty. People come to this place from all over the world, and it has nothing to do with location location, in the least!
 
Natural attrition
Just like most restaurants have a 2 year life span.
Our B&B has been around for over 25 years and really if it went by revenue vs lifestyle B&B it shouldn't remain open. That is the truth, if there were not other income sources, or if the innkeeper didn't have a mortgage...
It has nothing to do with mismanagement either, if anything it is managed super well to the extreme. We do everything ourselves, and I mean everything, we are cheap I am very thrifty. People come to this place from all over the world, and it has nothing to do with location location, in the least!.
I can see on the council's system an application for a replacement fire escape in 1975 which means we were a B&B long enough to need a replacement before that (ie at least 10 years) and all various reasons for the change of ownership - the last 2 were
(1) sold to their son when they wanted to retire
(2) son and his wife were getting divorced and he had to pay her off + was never one for hard work of any kind
On the other thread I put a list of BB's up for sale and why they are up for sale - a variety of reasons from burnt out, retiring, property developer, staff and so on - trouble in my opinion is too many people don't understand a Bed and Breakfast is a BUSINESS and must be run like one to make money!
 
Natural attrition
Just like most restaurants have a 2 year life span.
Our B&B has been around for over 25 years and really if it went by revenue vs lifestyle B&B it shouldn't remain open. That is the truth, if there were not other income sources, or if the innkeeper didn't have a mortgage...
It has nothing to do with mismanagement either, if anything it is managed super well to the extreme. We do everything ourselves, and I mean everything, we are cheap I am very thrifty. People come to this place from all over the world, and it has nothing to do with location location, in the least!.
I think truth be told MOST B&B's are lifestyle B&B's. If the owners did not have another income source they would not be able to pay the bills. I think this is what many younger aspirings don't understand. It takes money to buy, money to run, and money to live on....
 
This may sound silly...but I felt we maybe should cave in.
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home . I can't wait to get back home and get to work. The flame is glowing bright. Bought all new bedding for both places, Have thoughts on replace one of the chesterfields. Change walls colouring .Also found 15 new recipe books to try new breakfasts .
Yes we all can't get away for that long I know. But some times a rest is the best medicine.
 
This may sound silly...but I felt we maybe should cave in.
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home . I can't wait to get back home and get to work. The flame is glowing bright. Bought all new bedding for both places, Have thoughts on replace one of the chesterfields. Change walls colouring .Also found 15 new recipe books to try new breakfasts .
Yes we all can't get away for that long I know. But some times a rest is the best medicine..
After a l o n g winter I am so ready to get back to work. Innkeeping is so fulfilling to me. ( I know it is a sickness)
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This may sound silly...but I felt we maybe should cave in.
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home . I can't wait to get back home and get to work. The flame is glowing bright. Bought all new bedding for both places, Have thoughts on replace one of the chesterfields. Change walls colouring .Also found 15 new recipe books to try new breakfasts .
Yes we all can't get away for that long I know. But some times a rest is the best medicine..
After a l o n g winter I am so ready to get back to work. Innkeeping is so fulfilling to me. ( I know it is a sickness)
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We've not had a bad winter here, but it's been quiet, so yes, I'm the same. Looking forward to getting busy again. Looking forward to seeing peoples reactions when they see the new room, so that's a boost too.
It seems to start this weekend here.
 
This may sound silly...but I felt we maybe should cave in.
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home . I can't wait to get back home and get to work. The flame is glowing bright. Bought all new bedding for both places, Have thoughts on replace one of the chesterfields. Change walls colouring .Also found 15 new recipe books to try new breakfasts .
Yes we all can't get away for that long I know. But some times a rest is the best medicine..
Flower said:
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home .
Oh Flower, I hope there weren't any serious injuries. Driving a motor home is not for wimps.
 
This may sound silly...but I felt we maybe should cave in.
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home . I can't wait to get back home and get to work. The flame is glowing bright. Bought all new bedding for both places, Have thoughts on replace one of the chesterfields. Change walls colouring .Also found 15 new recipe books to try new breakfasts .
Yes we all can't get away for that long I know. But some times a rest is the best medicine..
Flower said:
Being away for 6 months and stuck here in CA .Cause of an accident with motor home .
Oh Flower, I hope there weren't any serious injuries. Driving a motor home is not for wimps.
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We feel like we had a miracle before our eyes. A living miracle. You know how people won't leave space between you and another car. Well the car ahead of him slammed on the breakings as a result he did also slammed his on. he had passed us and was very close to our front we were going 43 miles on a 65 mile zone. Cause motor homes don't stop on a dime. We hit him good and hard.
His car was and old Mercedes. As they are built like a tank. NOBODY! got hurt. I still cannot believe no one got hurt. Our home damage is 2o thousand dollars to repair. He took out all our front lights and damage our front badly.
He The driver of the Mercedes pretend to not speak English. But after speaking to the female police women she asked me to explain to the drive of the car what poutine was^^^^ I did and guess what he understood everything I said!!!! amazing uh?
We feel very blessed that no one was hurt. The angels were working over time
.Now we are under the gun to get across the border as our time is up. Don't know what the border people will do??Time will tell. Very stressfully time right now. We still have about 1,500 miles to get home.
Thank you for asking .Innkeeper.
 
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