NOT calling him back... what would you do?

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ADVICE PLEASE:

My son's  renters from last year moved out of his house (we manage it for him), and left a lot of damage. But one of the girls father called me right after they moved out and yelled and screamed at me that he wanted their deposit back. I told him the girls are responsible for all the damage and the cleaning of the home. He went crazy and was abusive on the phone. I hung up. 

I didn't have a forwarding address, but I called one of the girls and left a message on her phone telling them I needed a forwarding address and that they were not getting their deposit back.  I also attempted to mail them a letter to the rental address hoping it would be forwarded by the post office, but it came back to me. So they waited 30 days and then sent me a letter saying that legally 'now that it has been 30 days' I HAD to give them their deposit back or they will take me to court. OF course I toke the letter to my attorney along with a copy of the rental lease agreement that they signed. The attorney said,  they don't have a a case. Even if there was no damage,  because 1. they didn't give me a 'written notice to vacate' and they didn't give me 30 days notice. They could actually owe another months rent.  2. they didn't give back all keys 3. they didn't give a copy of paid final utility bills, as stated in the lease agreement (so the owner doesn't get stuck with the bill). So just on that alone they don't get it back.

So the attorney wrote them a letter and basically told them to 'drop it' or if they pursue it, He will counter sue!

We haven't heard back from them, UNTIL yesterday... That same 'irate' father called and left a voice mail saying " I'd like to visit your 'establishment' please call me." he left a ph number, no name. 
THERE IS NO WAY!!!! I know it was him, I recognized his voice, AND I have caller ID.  I called the attorney today and discussed this with him. I believe legally, I don't have to allow him to come here. He agreed and even volunteered to call the guy for me.  If he tries to just show up, I can tell him he doesn't have a reservation. I fb him to see what he looks like. 

BUT I think he wants to show up and and do something stupid to his food, and then say he was poisoned here or pretend he got hurt and try to sue us.

He comes across as very vindictive!

He called again twice today and left another message. I didn't answer, or call him back, but I'm thinking I should just answer and immediately say 
"Mr ........ this is our home. You  are not welcome here. Please stop calling.' and hang up. 

What would you all do. PLEASE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE. Thank you. 

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 WOW! the attorney got a hold of him and said the guy was really curt with him.  He said the guy said, I'm just trying to make a reservation. I have no business with you! and hung up on him!

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As long as your attorney has called him and you have caller ID. Don't answer..go out and celebrate your Birthday!

The guy is a jerk. Doesn't he realize the kid signed a rent agreement....at least I hope there was one.

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EmptyNest wrote:

The guy is a jerk. Doesn't he realize the kid signed a rent agreement....at least I hope there was one.

Some guys (mostly guys) consider everything a competition they must win. Always get the best deal on a car purchase. Always get a seat by the window in a restaurant. Must never lose a deposit when they move out of an apartment.

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Sunshine wrote:

 WOW! the attorney got a hold of him and said the guy was really curt with him.  He said the guy said, I'm just trying to make a reservation. I have no business with you! and hung up on him!

We'll see if this doesn't get him to back off now. It might. One last bit of bluster before calling off the vendetta, we hope.

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Sunshine wrote:

 WOW! the attorney got a hold of him and said the guy was really curt with him.  He said the guy said, I'm just trying to make a reservation. I have no business with you! and hung up on him!

 

So in addition to being a helicopter parent, a hothead and a bully, he is a liar.   Nice.

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Have a pleasant birthday outing. You are out and away from EVERYTHING!! (Meaning ditto all that was said before.)

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But do keep a log of every call.

As he threatened to sue you right up front, if you do answer you can refer him to your lawyer . you might want to answer just to stop the calls.

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Madeleine wrote:

But do keep a log of every call.

As he threatened to sue you right up front, if you do answer you can refer him to your lawyer . you might want to answer just to stop the calls.

 

Answer like this, "Hello, this is Sunshine, you are on a recorded line, how may I help you?"

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So Sorry Sunshine!  Listen to your attorney, s/he knows best. 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY - go out have fun, put this out of your mind!

Today is DH's b'day too. 

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY SUNSHINE!!

I'm sorry this creep is bothering you. If you don't have one of those phones that block calls, you might want to think about getting one (they're cheap), just so you don't have to deal with the harassing multiple calls.

This guy is a jerk and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I don't know what size town you're in, but if it were in my small area, I'd call the sheriff to make a house call. That usually shuts up these bullies. I had a series of obscene phone calls in the middle of the night, called the sheriff (phone company was useless) and they called the guy and that was the last I ever heard from him. Yeah, the guy was so stupid, his phone had caller ID.

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Listen to your lawyer and try not to worry.  Enjoy your birthday, Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!

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 Attorney tried to call the guy.. He didn't answer, and doesn't have voice mail (or shut it off). So attorney is going to send him a letter. 

The guy has tried to call 6 times already this morning!!! 

I hope he doesn't just 'show up'. BUT if he does, he's not getting in. AND its my BD today, so my hubby stayed home with me! YAY!!! 

I'm closing the tea room early and we are taking off for the day. We have no b&b guests tonight so we can go play!! 

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Happy Birthday, Sunshine!   I think you  have handled this creep quite well.  I would not call him or have any contact with him.  My experience is that the creep will move on and harass someone else unless you keep contact with him.  Sort of "out of sight, out of mind".  

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Happy birthday!

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Sunshine wrote:

 Attorney tried to call the guy.. He didn't answer, and doesn't have voice mail (or shut it off). So attorney is going to send him a letter. 

The guy has tried to call 6 times already this morning!!! 

I hope he doesn't just 'show up'. BUT if he does, he's not getting in. AND its my BD today, so my hubby stayed home with me! YAY!!! 

I'm closing the tea room early and we are taking off for the day. We have no b&b guests tonight so we can go play!! 

 

Have a wonderful Birthday and put this guy out of your head.

(on a separate subject, I dislike parents who try to solve their adult children's problems.  If she is old enough to rent a house, she is old enough to deal with the deposit and legal matters herself.  He is a bully and she is probably used to him 'helping' her whenever she flocks up.)   (P.S. I am making more than a few assumptions here, but still......)

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 Attorney tried to call the guy.. He didn't answer, and doesn't have voice mail (or shut it off). So attorney is going to send him a letter. 

The guy has tried to call 6 times already this morning!!! 

I hope he doesn't just 'show up'. BUT if he does, he's not getting in. AND its my BD today, so my hubby stayed home with me! YAY!!! 

I'm closing the tea room early and we are taking off for the day. We have no b&b guests tonight so we can go play!! 

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Happy Birthday!!!

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I would ask the lawyer what to do and if you can have a cease and desist order put in place and that all further contact will have to be done through the lawyer and that he is not entitled to contact you through your personal phone or business phone.

It's best handled via the lawyer at this point.

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Oh wow...I can see where this would eat at you.  It's turned a lot more personal when he wants to come to your home. That bothers me.  Yes, as others have said, simply have your attorney call, and when he does so, be sure to have him say to the man "Any further calls to her house/business/cell phone, or any contact at all, will be construed as harassment and criminal charges will be filed." And follow up on it with a harassment report, and a No Contact Order.  Document any of these phones calls or any (God forbid) visits to your house, acting as a prospective guest.

I am betting one phone call from your attorney will stop this crazy behavior.

 

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You do not have to rent a room to anyone you do not wish to. Especially feeling threatened. Don't call him back, you also DON'T HAVE TO CALL ANYONE BACK if you don't want to. Your business, you do whatever you want to do, you can lock the door and take a nap if you want to.

Let the attorney handle it if you have one in place. Don't allow this creep to get under your skin, but document everything, every call, email, whatever. 

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...it has been 30 days' I HAD to give them their deposit back or they will take me to court.

As others have said, once somebody threatens legal action against you, it's out of your hands. You never talk to them again. From that point on they should only talk with your attorney.

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Have your attorney call him.  This is a legal matter.   If by some chance you talk to him on the phone, say, "Please contact my attorney."

 

And btw - this sucks.   I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

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Have your attorney call him. My guess is you are right about him wanting to do something vindictive or at least harass you.

Your attorney will know what to say.

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Block his number, and have the attorney contact him asap to tell him all contact goes through him now. If he some how gets around that, and does show up, I would call the police. Would also document all calls and messages. Don't delete anything. 

So sorry, these are things that can really test a person. Good luck. 

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