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Momma Smurf

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After I so adamantly advocated printing out each reservation and not relying upon someone else's system in the cloud, over the past few days we have lost all info for the last 4 out of 5 manually entered reservations on ResKey. Others are also reporting opening reservations and finding all info gone in RK. John is trying to figure out what the issue is and why it is happening, but meanwhile can't find the info that went missing. Luckily, we had the info on file as a backup to re-enter.
Hit that Print button folks... it takes just a second.... this time it's RK, but as I advised just a few days ago, any system is vulnerable.
 
Yikes
Are any manual reservations somewhat older?
Definitely see the wisdom of having some kind of written record. Even if things are fine, the power, internet or phone could go down.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
I do exactly the same. My reservation system is in the cloud on Amazon's servers. I have every email to the clients, every confirmation on Google's email servers. And I have redundant access via my DSL and phone.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
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It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
 
Momma Smurf said:
Hit that Print button folks... it takes just a second.... this time it's RK, but as I advised just a few days ago, any system is vulnerable.
Since we began as all-paper inn then went through Webervatons (simple) followed by Resnexus (complex and extensive) we have a tendency to carry over old habits:
1) a paper calendar on the kitchen counter for a quick consult as needed (last names/date only)
2) a printed invoice for every arriving guest.
Resnexus printouts [set up to my specs] include name, address, phone number and email address. Everything but the cc number right there on one page.
So, IF entered info goes missing, and they have not arrived you have the "invoice" with the data for re-entry if ever needed. Great during power outages, too.
Many guests LIKE to receive that receipt/invoice at check in. Business people REQUIRE it (including one which shows a $0 balance).
One has to trust one's "cloud" so go with the most trustworthy one you can afford. IF their ability to keep your data safe and available isn't good, find another which is. Just as important as offering reservations online!
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
 
I have never trusted a third party. I get so paranoid, I can't not have a folder full of my reservation info.
Yes, hit that PRINT button
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
 
I have had minor problems with RK in the past when I looked into a reservation and then back into the calendar where all the info on every reservation had changed to the one guest who's reservation I looked into.
It was during a relatively quiet season, and all of the reservations were return guests, so I didn't panic and because I had all the print outs, I could recreate the calendar.
I am very worried that this might happen again during my busy season, ugh
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
.
Res Key generates an automatic email to us with the res details and the guest details. It then sends us a copy of the confirmation letter, which also includes res details. I thought that happened for everyone.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
.
Res Key generates an automatic email to us with the res details and the guest details. It then sends us a copy of the confirmation letter, which also includes res details. I thought that happened for everyone.
.
we also get an email from res k with res info
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
.
Res Key generates an automatic email to us with the res details and the guest details. It then sends us a copy of the confirmation letter, which also includes res details. I thought that happened for everyone.
.
I don't get an auto email with all the details for a manual reservation, just the first 12 digits once the CC is entered. Is there a setting to include the Manual info?
My Confirmation is customized with our logo and policies. Includes Names, Address, Room, Arrival and Departure Dates, Pricing, Deposit, Balance Due. No guest phone number.
I keep copies of all Confirmations in a separate file on the computer which is auto backuped by Mozy each night. Also keep all original online RK reservations in a separate email folder.
So I do have rudimentary redundancy if I have computer access and connectivity if available.
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
.
Res Key generates an automatic email to us with the res details and the guest details. It then sends us a copy of the confirmation letter, which also includes res details. I thought that happened for everyone.
.
we also get an email from res k with res info
.
Manual reservations too? What is the setting to get more info besides 12 CC digits?
 
All of our reservation information is forwarded to our email and sits on our website hosts servers in case it must be retrieved. while it is conceivable that two random server systems could crash at the same time, it is extremely unlikely. Do you have your reservations BCCed to you?.
RK doesn't BBC manual reservations, do they? . They are the ones randomly being lost.
.
It sends me the CC info and when I send the confirmation it sends me a copy- I think
.
Sorry but rhe last 4 digits are not sent and are lost in RK plus the expiration date. You do lose payment means. It also depends what info is included in your confirmation. Phone? Email address? Arrival? Dietary Restrictions? Special needs? Etc.
.
That's correct. You do not get the full number. Once in 10 years, not having the number for a guest, it was a cancellation, created an embarrassing moment. Otherwise, I would just call them or wait until arrival.
As far as details, the guest details are pretty complete, but I do think you could add more if you wanted it.
MS, it works perfectly well in your business. That's great, but it is not the rule anymore and many many of us do not have paper until after the sale because we have redundancy built into our operations.
In the scenario you describe, we would have gone to our email and recaptured all of the data excepting the CC, which we would have called the guest to recapture. It would have been a nuisance, but not a crisis. In the incredibly odd circumstances that ALL three of our computers blew up at the same time, we would have gone to the server company site and pulled the information off of there, assuming us and the house were still here to do so.
The greater crisis is what is going on with RES KEY that it happened in the first place.
.
So you include the guest phone number in the confirmation letter? Otherwise how would you have it?
.
Res Key generates an automatic email to us with the res details and the guest details. It then sends us a copy of the confirmation letter, which also includes res details. I thought that happened for everyone.
.
I don't get an auto email with all the details for a manual reservation, just the first 12 digits once the CC is entered. Is there a setting to include the Manual info?
My Confirmation is customized with our logo and policies. Includes Names, Address, Room, Arrival and Departure Dates, Pricing, Deposit, Balance Due. No guest phone number.
I keep copies of all Confirmations in a separate file on the computer which is auto backuped by Mozy each night. Also keep all original online RK reservations in a separate email folder.
So I do have rudimentary redundancy if I have computer access and connectivity if available.
.
you know- i am not sure since i haven't done a manual one lately- been sending most everyone to the website to reserve.
I think you can set up a custom email with whatever you want on it and send it to yourself when you finish the res
 
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