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Morticia

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Have any inquiry for 4 nights. We can accommodate the guest for 2 nights then move them to another room for the other 2 nights. Should I just reopen the room on Air so the guest can book the 4 nights? I've explained the situation to the guest but haven't heard back if they want to move rooms.
Other option is to decline the request.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
 
Something I learned as a landlord, that an inquiry or interest means nothing. How many times people wanted me to "hold the room/apartment, I will take it." Most of the time, I never hear from them again. Book and pay for the room. Otherwise, it stays available. (Of course if it is 3 months out, that may be another thing).
If they are nonresponsive, that is not really your problem. They may already by changing plans or location.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
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Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
 
OK second question - I can't find an email for this guest on their profile. Any idea where it might be?
Never mind
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
.
Jon Sable said:
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
ical has nothing to do with responding to an inquiry.
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I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Got it. But I would still say you can respond to an inquiry, but nothing gets "held" for people who do not complete the transaction, unless perhaps it is months out. As I said, I find these people usually wind up doing something else. If they book they book, If not, it may be taken later.
Early on, I got burned a lot by people who wanted me to "hold the room/apartment for a day, week, whatever." Did not want to put money down, and they rarely come back. Now if they want to hold a place, I say "yes, for a nonrefundable deposit of $x" - that applies to the rent IF they actually take the place.
You shouldn't have to hold a place for anyone is they are not willing to book. This is all about who takes the risk. The business owner should not have to.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
.
Jon Sable said:
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
No. I do everything manually. Which is why I got a request for a room that appeared to be open. I thought I had closed everything out, but missed this one. No problem. The guest gets a $70 discount and a better room for my mistake but I also get a booking that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Got it. But I would still say you can respond to an inquiry, but nothing gets "held" for people who do not complete the transaction, unless perhaps it is months out. As I said, I find these people usually wind up doing something else. If they book they book, If not, it may be taken later.
Early on, I got burned a lot by people who wanted me to "hold the room/apartment for a day, week, whatever." Did not want to put money down, and they rarely come back. Now if they want to hold a place, I say "yes, for a nonrefundable deposit of $x" - that applies to the rent IF they actually take the place.
You shouldn't have to hold a place for anyone is they are not willing to book. This is all about who takes the risk. The business owner should not have to.
.
undersea said:
You shouldn't have to hold a place for anyone is they are not willing to book. This is all about who takes the risk. The business owner should not have to.
Nothing gets held on my side of things until the reservation is made. It's just an inquiry until both sides agree. But the original question was about how to handle it if the guest never got back to me. Do I let the request expire or decline the request? I was wondering which of those things looked worse for me from the next guest's perspective.
"Doesn't respond" or "Declines requests".
You have a rating on the site. I'd hate to start off with a lousy rating.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Got it. But I would still say you can respond to an inquiry, but nothing gets "held" for people who do not complete the transaction, unless perhaps it is months out. As I said, I find these people usually wind up doing something else. If they book they book, If not, it may be taken later.
Early on, I got burned a lot by people who wanted me to "hold the room/apartment for a day, week, whatever." Did not want to put money down, and they rarely come back. Now if they want to hold a place, I say "yes, for a nonrefundable deposit of $x" - that applies to the rent IF they actually take the place.
You shouldn't have to hold a place for anyone is they are not willing to book. This is all about who takes the risk. The business owner should not have to.
.
undersea said:
You shouldn't have to hold a place for anyone is they are not willing to book. This is all about who takes the risk. The business owner should not have to.
Nothing gets held on my side of things until the reservation is made. It's just an inquiry until both sides agree. But the original question was about how to handle it if the guest never got back to me. Do I let the request expire or decline the request? I was wondering which of those things looked worse for me from the next guest's perspective.
"Doesn't respond" or "Declines requests".
You have a rating on the site. I'd hate to start off with a lousy rating.
.
It's only happened to me once and I waited several days before I declined the reservation inquiry.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Morticia said:
...you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
I would think responding to a query IS enough. Are you sure it's not? I looked for info on that but couldn't find anything specific.
 
Something I learned as a landlord, that an inquiry or interest means nothing. How many times people wanted me to "hold the room/apartment, I will take it." Most of the time, I never hear from them again. Book and pay for the room. Otherwise, it stays available. (Of course if it is 3 months out, that may be another thing).
If they are nonresponsive, that is not really your problem. They may already by changing plans or location..
An "air" inquiry is totally different than any other inquiry. It's the way the whole process works. To make a reservation, the guest has to do an inquiry first.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Morticia said:
...you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
I would think responding to a query IS enough. Are you sure it's not? I looked for info on that but couldn't find anything specific.
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Arks said:
Morticia said:
...you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
I would think responding to a query IS enough. Are you sure it's not? I looked for info on that but couldn't find anything specific.
If you have an inquiry and you go to respond to it you'll see a message telling you responding is not enough. You have the timer running on clicking an option of pre approving or declining.
At some point, you can say you need more info but that starts the clock over on the guest's side to give them 24 hours to respond.
At least those are the messages I've been seeing in the couple of weeks I've been doing this.
 
I think you'll have to wait until the guest gives the OK for the move. It would sure be easier if they could/would contact you directly.
I've got one like that coming in tomorrow. 3 nights in one room, then have to move to another for 1 night because the first room was previously booked by someone who really wants it. A bit of extra cleaning, but that's the business..
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
.
Morticia said:
That's what I thought. But if the guest doesn't reply? Then what? Do I let it expire or decline it?
You have responded so in the eyes of Air, you've held up your end. I wouldn't decline it. I'd leave the ball in the guest's court for now. If somebody else takes the room, the Air guest hesitated and lost. If not, let it lay there.
.
I was wondering which option is worse for me. Declining or not doing anything. They're pretty clear that you get bumped down the list if you miss the deadline and just responding to a query is not enough.
Anyhoo, all fixed from this end.
.
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
.
undersea said:
Not ever used Air or perused it much. If this was just an inquiry, does it really matter what occurred? If they didn't actually book anything, what happened to cause concern?
It matters if you want to continue to list on the site how you handle ALL interactions. Whether a simple inquiry or a completed reservation.
If you get an inquiry from your own website you can ignore it. Not if you're listing thru some of the OTA's. Some don't care, some do. Air cares because they make money on both ends of the deal. Guest & host.
OTOH, I personally care how I'm treated so I return that care when someone makes an inquiry regardless from where. Yes, even the 30 phone calls with no reservation kinds of inquiries. Perfectly pleasant every time someone called or I called them. Groused once off phone. ;-)
.
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
.
Jon Sable said:
Does your software not produce the ical files you need for Air? Or Do you not have a channel manager for that?
No. I do everything manually. Which is why I got a request for a room that appeared to be open. I thought I had closed everything out, but missed this one. No problem. The guest gets a $70 discount and a better room for my mistake but I also get a booking that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
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iCal is a calendar format that is used to import and export availability. Sites like Air can use these (picked up every 6 hours or so) to put availability up to date.
 
It's a brave new world this 'air' business ... I'm totally confused!
 
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