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johninthecamper

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Hello all,i am looking for someone who wishes to start up, no desire on my part to do anything with the business itself,i want to lease the house out,longterm is what I think I would like.I have a 9 bedroom, 3full bathroom house in 96034 zip code.under the same roof ,there is a seperate area that is 2 bed,one bath.so 7 rooms for clients.this would be considered a start from scratch operation.quite a few things need to be done to open.the laundry is started,which means there are a few commercial W&D setups not installed,just sitting there.i am sure that my info provided, only raises more questions than I am unable to guess as to what they would be along with what I would consider normal questions as to what the house actually is.
Please let's discuss all the possibilities and for a better picture ,this was a hunting&fishing lodge,40 yrs ago.i will happily answer any and all questions,provide pictures,video,address,tour
my main interest is in trailer parks,but I do have a existing b&b in my sights,this one is a very high profile one,lot of notoriety.in negotiations for that presently,but that's a post for another day.
Thank you for your time
 
Sorry for the redundancy,but I didn't see the box to get notified of replies by email,so I checked &posted,thank you
 
3 bathrooms for 9 bedrooms...you will have to do alot of remodeling before this place could even be considered for a B & B. Most of us here are already innkeepers or retired innkeepers. But post away, there may someone out there crazy enough to want to take this on...who knows?? Stranger things have happened. Good Luck.
 
Not enough bathrooms. Period. Unless you're willing to put the investment into this place to add bathrooms, forget about it. This is not 40 years ago where Americans were willing to share bathrooms.
 
OK,didnt realize each room needs a bath, just the kind of thing that wasn't obvious to me.not that this is a high end location,but I know of plenty of expensive places that have a bathroom down the hall.i would think that anything is negotiable and has a place.
Maybe this places level is more of a long term boarding house.
I want to understand and come up with the better use than single family home.
Thx
 
johninthecamper said:
OK,didnt realize each room needs a bath, just the kind of thing that wasn't obvious to me.not that this is a high end location,but I know of plenty of expensive places that have a bathroom down the hall.i would think that anything is negotiable and has a place.
Maybe this places level is more of a long term boarding house.
I want to understand and come up with the better use than single family home.
Thx.
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NOPE... no way should 9 bedrooms use 3 baths I don't care what you use it for. It won't be for a B & B like this. Maybe a hostel??? But that's about it.
 
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck
 
seashanty said:
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck.
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seashanty said:
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck
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SS, he doesn't want to run this property, he wants to lease it and have someone else start some sort of lodging on it.
 
seashanty said:
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck.
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Permits and such is not any issue,either is spending money,althiugh I was hoping for a modify to suit sort of a thing.the kitchen as large,i f I recall it's about 20x15(conservative),not commercial and that is where a single washer an dryer is .the wascomats are in the garage and another building,3pairs.the kitchen has a great room off to one side and upstairs there is a room that could be a common area for eating additionally.two bedrooms and a bath ,a living room and dining room are seperate from the rest,there is three entry spots in the kitchen,one outside mudroom another goes the the seperate dining room and third to the great room,all stout.the kitchen can be compartmentalized.the real laundry is red tagged,need to address that regardless of anything else. Parking is plenty.goodwill was the interior designers main choice of vendors
Yes I can easily sell it to the very well to do neighbor,he has a standing offer to walk away for 50k.(over purchase price)edit
I don't want to run this biz only own land.i have my hands full with trailer park stuff.which brings up a pontentially important issue,this house is on the same unsubdividable(per county) as my trailer park.pick one or the other(bulldoze) or both exist together.a s far as a website goes I don't even know how to drive my existing website around the block or access anything,only know how to collect it's money.technology beyond this type of thing (surfing&emails)is way to much too teach this old dog new tricks. Much rather remodel a bathroom.
Last thing,as far as safety is concerned,nobody is held to a higher standard than a trailer park and you are talking acres instead of square feet.
Keep it coming,i can face the truth and try and do something about it.
Thanks all
 
Maybe you can turn it into a half way house, I am sure felons won't mind sharing bathrooms.
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No seriously, it is nearly 2017 people may have shared from decades ago, but new, no way. Have to move forward.
Stay at a B&B to get some first person ideas, that is my recommendation. Ask the innkeeper a few questions.
 
johninthecamper said:
seashanty said:
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck.
Click to expand...
Permits and such is not any issue,either is spending money,althiugh I was hoping for a modify to suit sort of a thing.the kitchen as large,i f I recall it's about 20x15(conservative),not commercial and that is where a single washer an dryer is .the wascomats are in the garage and another building,3pairs.the kitchen has a great room off to one side and upstairs there is a room that could be a common area for eating additionally.two bedrooms and a bath ,a living room and dining room are seperate from the rest,there is three entry spots in the kitchen,one outside mudroom another goes the the seperate dining room and third to the great room,all stout.the kitchen can be compartmentalized.the real laundry is red tagged,need to address that regardless of anything else. Parking is plenty.goodwill was the interior designers main choice of vendors
Yes I can easily sell it to the very well to do neighbor,he has a standing offer to walk away for 50k.(over purchase price)edit
I don't want to run this biz only own land.i have my hands full with trailer park stuff.which brings up a pontentially important issue,this house is on the same unsubdividable(per county) as my trailer park.pick one or the other(bulldoze) or both exist together.a s far as a website goes I don't even know how to drive my existing website around the block or access anything,only know how to collect it's money.technology beyond this type of thing (surfing&emails)is way to much too teach this old dog new tricks. Much rather remodel a bathroom.
Last thing,as far as safety is concerned,nobody is held to a higher standard than a trailer park and you are talking acres instead of square feet.
Keep it coming,i can face the truth and try and do something about it.
Thanks all
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I guess I don't understand. If you don't want to run it why dll this? If you are that well off fix the place up and then use lease it to someone who wants to be an innkeeper without having to purchase or just hire someone to run it for you. You won't have a problem finding someone to do that. Or sell it the property to the neighbor and let him deal with it or tear down.
I am not sure many of us can relate to your story or maybe even believe it
 
EmptyNest said:
johninthecamper said:
seashanty said:
Are you in a position financially to add more bathrooms? It is not impossible, I did it. Had to do it really because the guests wanted their own. I had to be very creative with design and had to vent out through the roof where we could connect to an existing line. I added three private bathrooms. The new owner has added two more. The biggest issue after design and permitting was the septic system that had to be expanded.
I don't know your area. It can be challenging to get the license and permit needed.
How is the kitchen?
How is the laundry area?
Do you have common areas large enough for guests to eat breakfast all at once?
Parking?
Furnishings?
You can start with few guestrooms until you see how that works out and then add more to available rental as you are able.
Again, not impossible, I had to do this. Had to buy mattresses, dishes, flatware, pots and pans - did not even have a working stove. Then safety, we had to put in a new furnace and water heater, fire alarms, security lighting. The works.
Any chance you can sell this property and buy a turn key b&b? Because you also have to do marketing, get a website up and running with a reservation system.
We OFTEN have folks come in here looking for a lease to own opportunity ... it is the financial investment that has to be made that might be daunting.
Good luck.
Click to expand...
Permits and such is not any issue,either is spending money,althiugh I was hoping for a modify to suit sort of a thing.the kitchen as large,i f I recall it's about 20x15(conservative),not commercial and that is where a single washer an dryer is .the wascomats are in the garage and another building,3pairs.the kitchen has a great room off to one side and upstairs there is a room that could be a common area for eating additionally.two bedrooms and a bath ,a living room and dining room are seperate from the rest,there is three entry spots in the kitchen,one outside mudroom another goes the the seperate dining room and third to the great room,all stout.the kitchen can be compartmentalized.the real laundry is red tagged,need to address that regardless of anything else. Parking is plenty.goodwill was the interior designers main choice of vendors
Yes I can easily sell it to the very well to do neighbor,he has a standing offer to walk away for 50k.(over purchase price)edit
I don't want to run this biz only own land.i have my hands full with trailer park stuff.which brings up a pontentially important issue,this house is on the same unsubdividable(per county) as my trailer park.pick one or the other(bulldoze) or both exist together.a s far as a website goes I don't even know how to drive my existing website around the block or access anything,only know how to collect it's money.technology beyond this type of thing (surfing&emails)is way to much too teach this old dog new tricks. Much rather remodel a bathroom.
Last thing,as far as safety is concerned,nobody is held to a higher standard than a trailer park and you are talking acres instead of square feet.
Keep it coming,i can face the truth and try and do something about it.
Thanks all
.
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I guess I don't understand. If you don't want to run it why dll this? If you are that well off fix the place up and then use lease it to someone who wants to be an innkeeper without having to purchase or just hire someone to run it for you. You won't have a problem finding someone to do that. Or sell it the property to the neighbor and let him deal with it or tear down.
I am not sure many of us can relate to your story or maybe even believe it
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EmptyNest said:
I guess I don't understand. If you don't want to run it why dll this? If you are that well off fix the place up and then use lease it to someone who wants to be an innkeeper without having to purchase or just hire someone to run it for you. You won't have a problem finding someone to do that. Or sell it the property to the neighbor and let him deal with it or tear down.
I am not sure many of us can relate to your story or maybe even believe it
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I understand maybe relate,but believe,really.
All I am trying accomplish is the most revenue for effort,thought maybe this was a good angle to look at.
In reality the lease price was intended to be what I would get from a family,just more long term being a business
 
Looking at the area, wouldn't a hunting and fishing lodge really be the best use for it? Maybe fixed up more, add more amenities, renting to groups that like to do outdoorsy things. Instead of trying to make it into a b&b?
 
seashanty said:
Looking at the area, wouldn't a hunting and fishing lodge really be the best use for it? Maybe fixed up more, add more amenities, renting to groups that like to do outdoorsy things. Instead of trying to make it into a b&b?.
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seashanty said:
Looking at the area, wouldn't a hunting and fishing lodge really be the best use for it? Maybe fixed up more, add more amenities, renting to groups that like to do outdoorsy things. Instead of trying to make it into a b&b?
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Yes word definitions come into play here..wasn't really aware of the prestige implied with a b&b..
Which in my opinion seems like a lot of work for your buck.i guess that is magnified by the transient nature of lots of turnover.i read a lot of posts before I joined.
 
johninthecamper said:
seashanty said:
Looking at the area, wouldn't a hunting and fishing lodge really be the best use for it? Maybe fixed up more, add more amenities, renting to groups that like to do outdoorsy things. Instead of trying to make it into a b&b?.
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seashanty said:
Looking at the area, wouldn't a hunting and fishing lodge really be the best use for it? Maybe fixed up more, add more amenities, renting to groups that like to do outdoorsy things. Instead of trying to make it into a b&b?
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Yes word definitions come into play here..wasn't really aware of the prestige implied with a b&b..
Which in my opinion seems like a lot of work for your buck.i guess that is magnified by the transient nature of lots of turnover.i read a lot of posts before I joined.
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Our B&B is next to a national park and about 1/3 of our revenue and half our profit is from our tours. I don't think it's the normal B&B set up, but I can imagine that someone who is interested in operating a B&B with activities may be excited about the prospect. Offering to convert a bed to a bathroom to help better suit the guests could be a negotiation part of the contract. I did stay in a beautiful lodge in the state of washington where some of the bathrooms were shared. Of course, it may just be easier to rent out as a different type of lodging. May you find the right tenants!
 

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