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Posted on Sun, 06/21/2009 - 9:07am

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http://www.innvideos.tv/NC/asheville/wrightinn.html cut n paste

Here is a video with a guest sharing her experiences and everything is "really" and "amazing" and "very" and "so beautiful" this is perhaps worse than the innkeepers on the videos?

You can view a few other inn videos in Asheville NC on this same web site. Share your thoughts?

The music is putting me off, sure it is the tone of relaxation, but it is boring! I would rather have some happier music. If you find one you LIKE please post it for us to view.

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Here is one with ZERO narration just music which just showcases the Bed and Breakfast - and the main attraction - the lake. I am not opposed to this sort at all. A media company produced this.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLqajblfpTU

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Says the salesperson for innvideos.tv

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<span id="gtbmisp_4">foxxycat</span> wrote:

Personally, I like most of the videos I've seen on innvideos.tv more so that these from bedandbreakfast.com. These seem to be more "sales" focused and too short. The ones from Inn videos are warmer and more personable. I think our guests would respond better to something like that.

Says the salesperson for innvideos.tv

I'm inclined to agree with your interpretation Little Blue. I appreciate that Chriso operates out in the open as a vendor on this forum, but the arrival of Foxxycat to respond directly on a very specific topic always raises my radar. Perhaps it is only coincidental that Chriso and Foxxycat are only located 34 miles apart. It is possible that a fan of innvideos would reside in the same state they did a lot of their work.

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Hi, this is Chris the Innkeeper and co-owner of InnVideos.tv. Video is certainly on the minds of many and this includes innkeepers. The video that innkeepers post on their website is for the guest not the innkeeper. So regardless of who the inn chooses to produce the video is should bridge this gap between the innkeeper and the guest. Only a small percentage of travelers stay at B & B's and if video can encourage a guest to stay at your inn then that is a very good thing.

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chriso wrote:

Only a small percentage of travelers stay at B & B's and if video can encourage a guest to stay at your inn then that is a very good thing.

It is a good thing only if it is done well. There are too many boring ones out there with the guest or innkeeper with long boring spiels such as the one listed about with some stranger gushing. It goes with the auto dealer using his shrilly-voiced kids on his tv ads. Shudder.

A quiet artistic video showing the inn and things to do in the area, yes. But I for one can do without any talking. Just show me the inn and what I can do in the area.

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There are four live, another dozen or so in process but not yet complete:

Ashton’s Bed and Breakfast: http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/la-new-orleans-ashtonsbedandbreakfast_videos.html Featherbed Railroad Company: http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/california-nice-featherbed-railroad-company_videos.html Almondy Inn: http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/rhode-island-newport-almondy-inn_videos.html Sugar Hill Harlem Inn: http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/new-york-manhattan-sugarhillharleminn_videos.html

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JBanczak wrote:

There are four live, another dozen or so in process but not yet complete:

Those are nice - short and sweet. But if I did it I don't know if I would want any sound. Maybe off-camera explaination of what they are seeing.

Are these the ones that have been advertised for $450? I don't see how they are done for that.

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egoodell wrote:

JBanczak wrote:

There are four live, another dozen or so in process but not yet complete:

Those are nice - short and sweet. But if I did it I don't know if I would want any sound. Maybe off-camera explaination of what they are seeing.

Are these the ones that have been advertised for $450? I don't see how they are done for that.

Riki

It is up to the innkeeper what type of sound/voice-over/participation that they want to have. I think it is nice to have the innkeeper do the talking, but it is not necessary to appear in the video at all. It also could be an option to have someone else do the voice-over. I'd certainly do music if there is no voice. On any videos we've made for BedandBreakfast.com itself, we don't have myself or Eric speaking - we have Janice do the talking since she has a much nicer voice! Ultimately it is up to each innkeeper.

And yes, these are the videos that we are doing for $499 (not $450 actually). When we started getting into simply posting videos last summer, we realized it was pretty expensive and innkeepers said primarily cost was holding them back from making them. We spent the fall and winter figuring out how we could change the game with a really affordable solution. By putting a lot of BedandBreakfast.com exposure together, we were able to structure a good product and offer with a vendor. We had a lot of motivation - the innkeepers own the videos themselves, and as they make the innkeepers sites more appealing, and their listings more appealing, they make BedandBreakfast.com a better site. So we wanted to find a format and price-point that would appeal to thousands of innkeepers.

Not to take anything away from Innvideos - from what I've seen it looks like a great product and they seem to have some really happy customers. We just wanted to do something we thought would have mass appeal at a price where people would say "I don't see how they are done for that..."

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JBanczak wrote:

And yes, these are the videos that we are doing for $499 (not $450 actually). that would appeal to thousands

I'm still not sure how it's done for that price - how does the photographer travel to these inns and get the film to do it? We're all over the place. I'm in Virginia and are you not all based out of Texas, I think?

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egoodell wrote:

JBanczak wrote:

And yes, these are the videos that we are doing for $499 (not $450 actually). that would appeal to thousands

RIki

They have a large network of local videographers, so there is generally someone within an hour or two of any property. I believe Innvideos does it the same way utilizing folks across the country, although I'm not certain. Here is an article about Turnhere in CNN that tells a lot about them:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/21/smallbusiness/turnhere_ads.fsb/index.htm

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JBanczak wrote:

They have a large network of local videographers, so there is generally someone within an hour or two of any property.

Okay that makes sense! You would for sure have someone here then. This is something that would possibly work for my tours. Would you do it for me if I was to put it on my tour website, not the B&B.com website page? Or could I put it on both?

Riki

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egoodell wrote:

JBanczak wrote:

They have a large network of local videographers, so there is generally someone within an hour or two of any property.

Riki

You can put it wherever you want, although I'm not sure what you mean for your tours? You can feel free to email me offline to discuss. There are no requirements to post it anywhere or host it anywhere - once you get the video it is yours. Of course most people want it on BB.com, Youtube, etc., and there is no extra charge, but no requirement either.

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JBanczak wrote:

We run personalized wine tasting tours which is difficult for some to comprehend as the regular tour is a driver in a limo and the guest tells them where they want to go and that's it. Everything is an additional cost from the tasting fee to the required "driver tip"

Ours are owner driven and we escort them in and through the tasting, serve an elegant cheese plate, pay all expenses and it is quoted in full up front, no suprises.

To do a video that would reflect our tours would entail the photographer to ride along with us to a couple of wineries and film the service rather than just a building.

I don't know if that would entail more cost as I don't know how portable the equipment is.

I would email you but your signature does not show your email address and my break is over so I gotta go work.

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I would email you but your signature does not show your email address

You can use the email link under his avatar in each of his posts.

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swirt wrote:

I would email you but your signature does not show your email address

You can use the email link under his avatar in each of his posts.

Thank you Professor! We can always count on you!

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egoodell wrote:

JBanczak wrote:

Ours are owner driven and we escort them in and through the tasting, serve an elegant cheese plate, pay all expenses and it is quoted in full up front, no suprises.

To do a video that would reflect our tours would entail the photographer to ride along with us to a couple of wineries and film the service rather than just a building.

I don't know if that would entail more cost as I don't know how portable the equipment is.

I would email you but your signature does not show your email address and my break is over so I gotta go work.

Riki

Sounds like a great tour - I'll contact Turnhere and find out.

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JBanczak wrote:

egoodell wrote:

JBanczak wrote:

Ours are owner driven and we escort them in and through the tasting, serve an elegant cheese plate, pay all expenses and it is quoted in full up front, no suprises.

To do a video that would reflect our tours would entail the photographer to ride along with us to a couple of wineries and film the service rather than just a building.

I don't know if that would entail more cost as I don't know how portable the equipment is.

I would email you but your signature does not show your email address and my break is over so I gotta go work.

Riki

Sounds like a great tour - I'll contact Turnhere and find out.

Thank you!

Riki

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Hi Riki -

Talked to Turnhere, they said they would really need to talk to you directly to scope it out. You can email me directly - john@bedandbreakfast.com - and I'll have them get in touch with you next week. Does that work?

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Hi Riki -

Yes that's fine as there is no plans to do it immediately. I'll email you, thank you!

Erika

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Do you guys want to see the videos that Turnhere shoots for BB.com members? I can post links if you are curious,

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JBanczak wrote:

Do you guys want to see the videos that Turnhere shoots for BB.com members? I can post links if you are curious,

I'd be interested!

Riki

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If I have the option, I don't watch any videos, and when I get on a website with music and birdgs chirping or whatever, I turn the sound off. Just irritates me personally for some reason.

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Little Blue wrote:

If I have the option, I don't watch any videos, and when I get on a website with music and birdgs chirping or whatever, I turn the sound off. Just irritates me personally for some reason.

I am sure that for everyone who hates my birds, there's another who loves them

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IrisoftheWayfarer wrote:

I am sure that for everyone who hates my birds, there's another who loves them

I guess the question I have to ask is, how are you sure of that?

The only way to know for sure when flying in the face of market history is to do split testing where every other visitor is given bird sounds and then compare the bounce rates. I am pretty certain you'd find that it is not the 1:1 relationship you are sure of.

On word of mouth you will only hear from the people who liked it or at least weren't put off by it. The others, you will never hear from.

Separate from the sound issue itself, when I hit your site, the first thing I get distracted by is quicktime telling me to update, because you are using quicktime to play the sound. Thats a bad thing to get hit with right off the bat before I even have a chance to look around. Quicktime or any kind of plug-in technology is best avoided for home pages...save it for deeper pages if possible where people have at least made the decision to look around a bit.

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Little Blue wrote:

If I have the option, I don't watch any videos, and when I get on a website with music and birdgs chirping or whatever, I turn the sound off. Just irritates me personally for some reason.

Sometimes I think you are me writing on this forum. I am the same, and people get ticked off big time when we mention it "Why don't you love the flying angels all over our website? Everyone tells us how great they are!" Sound can be turned on, video turned on, but if you have it auto play and jam up our pc's we get ticked!

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Joe Bloggs wrote:

Little Blue wrote:

If I have the option, I don't watch any videos, and when I get on a website with music and birdgs chirping or whatever, I turn the sound off. Just irritates me personally for some reason.

I think Swirt will agree that this is also poor web design. I'll wager the same B&Bs that do this are also the ones that are overly frou frou.

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I think Swirt will agree that this is also poor web design.

Autoplaying sound on a B&B website is a bad idea.

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I know it has been said before in another thread that we should not use our own opinion as a gauge in what people want or like in the internet, but I really don't like most any of the videos. I have been told they are the newest up and coming thing for B&B's, and we have friends here that are doing it, but I don't get it. I don't want to see it all or hear it all before I get to a place. I must be odd. Well, I know I am odd, but I must be unusual in this line of thought. Are you all rushing out to make a video? And I'm with the Texan - that was too long watching that guy yak. And the guest with her adjectives - I found that sleepily boring as well.

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The thing was too dang long. No one's going to hang around long enough to listen to that.

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Ah, I see Swirt....so it wouldn't help if I tagged something with say "Charlottetown Inn, B&B" or something along those lines.

Hmmm...going have to go back to the drawing board to increase my seo!

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It's not likely to help, but at the same time, the content is content none the less. You do want a link that leads to you for the human visitors even if does little to nothing for for your postion in the SERPS.

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swirt wrote:

SERPS?

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SERPS - Search Engine Results Pages

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I'm planning a video tour of my property...and I haven't figured out if I want it to be silent...or to have music/voiceovers.

I have a decent voice when it comes to voice overs...but I haven't figured out if I want to be visible or not.

The property is gorgeous so I really have nothing to hide, and would like to showcase the whole building. Should I also show off the town a bit as well? Does that help with conversions?

I also plan to place the videos on Youtube? Any SEO-hobbyists willing to divulge whether or not youtube back links are valuable to my seo? If they are...then I figure that I split the video into multiple sections on Youtube to create more and more backlinks...while at the same time, creating one "whole," video, that I would embed on my site (from Youtube..)

Comments?

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Any SEO-hobbyists willing to divulge whether or not youtube back links are valuable to my seo?

Pretty much No. Links from user contributed content (forums, youtube, blog comments...) are almost always worthless from a SEO point of view.

THat doesn't mean they don't have actual value in terms of getting mroe traffic to your site though.

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sonatainn wrote:

I'm planning a video tour of my property...and I haven't figured out if I want it to be silent...or to have music/voiceovers.

I have a decent voice when it comes to voice overs...but I haven't figured out if I want to be visible or not.

The property is gorgeous so I really have nothing to hide, and would like to showcase the whole building. Should I also show off the town a bit as well? Does that help with conversions?

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I think narration is fantasic. I think close ups of an innkeeper's big head are not. Close ups of breakfast and gardens and rooms, bring it on! Like Innsider mentioned, the uhs, mms, ands and the rest - not my cup of tea. Turns me off.

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At first I liked this guy and background music then thought "YOU LIAR!"

www. innvideos.tv/NC/asheville/northlodge.

http://www.innvideos.tv/search.html this is the entire country - I note that most states are not on board with this, NC is way way into it. Someone is marketing it and I guess it is the Joneses thing at the Inn there?

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Yep...the fellow is I believe a former innkeeper in Asheville. He did the stuff for his state NC and then promoted it at conferences. Folks signed up...and I suspect he got overwhelmed. He was here in our town 3 weeks ago taping a friends place. I have yet to see their video. I suspect he will be getting complaints shortly from this innkeeper.

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God bless him if that's the way he truly feels...I DO like his music though!

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