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I would like to hang a clothes line outside at the inn for sheets and such.

I am getting a truckload of resistance from the 'powers that be' on this idea. They think it is an eyesore and used words like 'white trash' and 'Hillbilly hot air dryer' to describe their feelings about it.

It would make my life so much easier. . . . . so, my question to you is:

Is hanging laundry on the line at a B & B 'innapproprate'?

 

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Go for it!!!

In some countries you see sheets hanging outside in small hotels even. Some countries NEVER use dryers.

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I love the smell of fresh sheets that have been hung out on the clothesline and I hang them whenever I can, but never when I have guests. My clothesline is mostly out of sight but not completely so I don't take the chance that a guest would be bothered by it. I also have the Whirlpool Duet washer and dryer. There is no way the washer could hold 16 pairs of jeans and get them clean, like they advertise. I do smaller loads and use the HE detergent and it's fine.

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our washer is a G E extra capacity and the dryer is a super capacity.. we can wash one full size sheet set plus 1 set of towels at one time.  I like to dry my towels separately, tho.  We have 5 guest rooms and when we are full and flipping rooms from 1 night stays I am so thankful for having 3 set of everything for each room.  The washer and dryer were fairly new when we got here (going of 3 yrs now) 

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So it was your brother......................knew there was a reasonable explanation for the washing machine door lock

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Reminds me of the toddler lock on my parents' new dishwasher.  Mom managed to lock herself out of the dishwasher many times.

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 I don't know, the sight of the things drying on the line wouldn't bother me at all but I think I must be in the minority...growing up my mom line dried EVERYTHING and while the smell is nice it does not make up for the crinkly, tough feel.  I love the feel of stuff fresh out of the dryer, soft and fluffy.

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Until my mom had 2 kids, all of our laundry got hung out, too. We actually shared a clothesline with our neighbors across the alley. They used it on certain days, we had it on others.

After my brother ran thru the laundromat opening all the doors on the washers, dumping out the soap and water everywhere and my mother was banished, she went back to hanging the clothes out the window. (Once upon a time, there were no safety locks on washers, now you all know why there are!)

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I have a Bosch front end loader commercial washer that is fantastic! I would love to have a Bosch dryer too. I will work on convincing the PTB that another dryer is the way to go.

I was out most of today and we had an absolutely torrential storm hit. If I had sheets out on a line, they would have been ruined. Lesson learned.

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The Farmers Daughter wrote:

 I will work on convincing the PTB that another dryer is the way to go.

Nope. That didn't fly. I was told to dream on.

So now what? I am right back where I started. . . . I am so frustrated!

 

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You know, seriously, those clowns don't know a thing. The BIG problem, tho, is that you HAVE done without for too long and the thought is 'what's her problem?'

I'd tell you to do what my mother always did...buy the damn thing and then deal with the fallout...except I don't know how you get paid. It could come out of your salary!

Have you no leverage at all?

You need an outside 'expert' to explain this to them.

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Morticia wrote:

I'd tell you to do what my mother always did...buy the damn thing and then deal with the fallout...

Or as my old boss would say - Sometimes it is easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission!

  If it would be that much of a help to you and they would not come through, would you consider purchasing it for yourself?  Stating that if you ever left the partnership or left your duties there, that it would leave with you.  (Not that I ever bought anything that costly when I worked the corp. world, but at times I did bring things to the office to help ME do my job easier.  They had my name on them and they left with me.)

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 Cabrio is great, but NOT for large heavy quilts (when wet)...nothing works well to wash or dry them really...they always go off balance and you end up messing with them.  I spent yonks yesterday to get that quilt done, now it is hanging over the laundry room door to dry.

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The big comforters like that here....I had to take them to the laundromat to use the commercial washer & dryer.  It is what it is, as they say.....

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I think you also need to ask yourself if the guests you get are like the PTB? If so, you have your answer. If not, gather some hard evidence that bookings will go up if you show a line of sheets drying on your website.

There is an innkeeper here who posts photos on FB of her sheets drying in the sun and she gets raves about it.

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Unfortunately, just to explain for our o/s innkeepers, in this country it is looked down upon to dry laundry naturally (therefore the comments orig made by the PTB mentioned by FD).  It is not that way o/s for the most part, it is common sense to use the sun.  This is an area where I actually feel guilt putting stuff into the dryer when it is hot and dry outside. So I can understand both sides of the equation.

It is the same notion when you hear innkeepers upset when guests hand wash items and hang them out, it is just not done here.  

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As long as they are not interfearing with where people are walking as well as I popped round to my neighbours and she was hanging out at the back and I had to climb under sheets to get in which as a guest I wouldn't be impressed with.

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Like "One Day" I hang B&B items in my basement. Towels I dry for 30 min (6 bath sheets per load) then finish drying on the basement lines. Come out fluffy this way. Other items are dried this way but mostly bath sheets. This works for me being a "green" B&B. Iam in the middle of town on 3/4 acre, so outside drying is not an option. I have public streets on 3 sides of my property.Mary in Bridgewater.

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We do our best to be an environmentally responsible business and have a Gold award for this, so the dryer is a last resort. Therefore I don't have a problem with guests seeing bed linen on the line, I agree with birdwatcher though, I don't think it's appropriate for guests to see personal clothes out, particluarly underwear.

Having said that we are a 3 room B&B, and I can appreciate that for people with more rooms line drying is time consuming. Also, guests can see our line, but it's not immediate visible when you come up the drive, although given our green policy I wouldn't have a problem with that if they could.

 

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Undies get hung on the first line and the shirts and other innkeeper laundry hangs on the lines in front ot it so "personal" items are neve on view. If possible - sheets are the view from the alley.

And it is true - I an NOT upscale and have no desire to me. I am juse me and in Podunk. Less problems that way. Now if I could just find a way to silence DH that is legal......

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I appear to be out-numbered, although I DID say backyard.

I did not take offense with you FD. Just sticks in the craw sometimes the way "some people" have to look down their snooty noses at people who are just trying to get along and save money. It really does not take me long to hang sheets and I fold as I take them down so that is no biggie. You have to do as the PTB determine, whether it makes more work for you or not. I am grateful that I AM the PTB! At least as long as it does not conflict with DH.

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You have to remember that you're not comparing apples to apples with your place & FD's place.  It would be a whole lot easier to hang laundry for your number of rooms and occupancy vs. what she is up against! 

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I guess I must be weird.  Last summer, I helped the owner hang the sheets while we discussed which part of the beach across the road belonged to them.  I can't imagine with current energy issues that anyone would have a problem with line drying!

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It all depends on what you are willing to let your guests see. I don't see a problem with just sheets hanging outside, now if there are personal clothes I would not do that unless there are no guests. I see your point about the sheets which are quick drying. But also the "cloud" coming and running out there to either get the sheets in or lettting the rain drench them a second time. I've done the clothes line thing, and yes it takes alot more work to get them in but if it frees your dryer for towels I don't see the harm in it. Specially now that everything is "environmentally" sensitive..even tolilet paper....so what is the problem!

 

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 We have an upstairs balcony "solar dryer" & use it for 99% of our laundry & I would venture to say that it is not easier. We live on a small island & didn't have a working dryer for a few years. We do now, but it is electric & takes much longer to run a single load through than to hang it all in the sun (plus more environmentally & economically friendly), but not easier.

Our guests cannot see the laundry hanging.

 

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 FD we all have this same question to ask, I will step out of the shadows and ask it:  "Have you ever line dried your laundry before?" I mean more than hand washing?  Running out to retrieve it all every time a cloud rolls past...ironing, again, not saving energy or time to have to iron everything.

 

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To be honest, no. I haven't.

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First let me apologize for the use of the aforemetioned inappropriate discriptive terms used by those other than myself. That statement does not reflect my own personal views. Sorry for any offense.

Second, let me explain why I think it would make my life easier.

I do laundry constantly. I average 6 to 8 loads a day. There is only one washer and dryer. The dryer is a 10 year old Neptune and has seen better days.

If I could use the dryer only for the towels and hang the sheets, I feel it would free up a lot of time for me. At the completion of the towels, I can toss the sheets in for a few mins on fluff and Iron only as needed.

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You will probably have an easier time of it getting them to buy another dryer. I totally get what you're up against with the laundry. We started off with 1 washer & 2 dryers and I'm up to 2 washers & 3 dryers. But, hauling it outside to hang? No siree. That would not amke my life easier. Tree sap, seagulls, caterpillars, neighborhood animals would all conspire against me!

On a total flip, we will do up to 10 loads for that day. And that's just the everyday stuff. Then there are the blankets, quilts, duvets & mattress pads which I stick in on 'slow' days. How about a laundry service?

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Morticia wrote:

You will probably have an easier time of it getting them to buy another dryer.

Easy or not, sounds like it's time to at least bring up the subject of an additional dryer with the PTB.

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We tried that when we were smaller, but since the renovation and additional rooms it became cost prohibitive.

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 If an additional dryer is out, what about investing in a front end loader, high efficiency washer?  This has cut down on our drying time dramatically as the he machine spins so much of the excess water out.  The washer can handle 4 queen size sheet sets, and the dryer can dry all that on one cycle.

We have 9 rooms, on a total flip ends up being about 7 loads of wash for us.

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Wow Rupert, you must have a real large capacity washer!  Mine is a 4.3cu. ft. one and I can only place 3 queen sheet sets in - washing the pillow cases seperately - but I prefer to only wash 2.5 sets at a time to ensure proper cleaning.  I just counted my last towel load - 6 sets of heavy towels.

I believe ours said it was a large load capacity washer... for Samsung HE I think there are 3 capacity sizes - reg., large and extra large.  I am sure this is the case with most brands so comaring how much a each front loader will hold would also depend on the cu. ft size of the drum. 

 

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I must have gotten the worst washer-dryer combo on the planet. My combo does 2 queen sets at a time and that's it. So, full strip for me is 11 beds and it takes forever.

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That was the case with our old (non-HE) washer.  The new one also does 4 full sets of towels and the dryer can do that all in one cycle.  It's been a life saver.   And of course hubs who is an engineer could show you the spread sheet with the calcs that prove how much less water and detergent we are using, as well as the cost and time savings 

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Rupert wrote:

That was the case with our old (non-HE) washer.  The new one also does 4 full sets of towels and the dryer can do that all in one cycle.  It's been a life saver.   And of course hubs who is an engineer could show you the spread sheet with the calcs that prove how much less water and detergent we are using, as well as the cost and time savings 

Do you mind letting us know which brand you have? I'm thinking the Samsung seems to be getting the best reviews. 

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 Ours is the Maytag commercial, have had it 3 years now and have been 100% satisfied with it.  I have heard some horror stories about all brands though, I guess a "lemon" is always a possibility.  

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Mine is an HE washer. LG brand. I'm about ready to give up on front loaders altogether.

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I like the commercial now that says it does 31 towels at once!!! Come on...how could 31 full size towels possibly get clean in such a small drum???  I can't even imagine stuffing in 31 towels. I will not get a front loader...Cabrio is for me when the time comes.

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I like the commercial now that says it does 31 towels at once!!! Come on...how could 31 full size towels possibly get clean in such a small drum???  I can't even imagine stuffing in 31 towels. I will not get a front loader...Cabrio is for me when the time comes.

Two things to think about here - 1) it would depend on the size of the drum, the extra large capacity ones do hold a heck of a lot; and 2) if they are using those thin $2-3 towels they just might fit 31 in that large unit! 

Commercials have a great way of stretching the truth - just think about those W opper commercials - with a hugh meat patty and piled high with all the extras - of course they forgot to show you the 'other side' of that burger with nothing but bun meeting bun. 

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do you have a dry basement?

Run lines in the basement..........My own utility room which is off the den is not a finished room.......In winter I used to put all my sweatshirts and sweats on hangers and hang them on the plumbing pipes.

Just last week I went to Bed Bath and Beyond to pick up the folding clothes drying racks........I personaly have only used the dryer twice........for a quilt and bed sheets.

Hey...........it's a hotter summer here than it has in like 8 years..........AC running 24/7..........I'm turning frugal as I age......

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do you have a dry basement?

Run lines in the basement..........My own utility room which is off the den is not a finished room.......In winter I used to put all my sweatshirts and sweats on hangers and hang them on the plumbing pipes.

Just last week I went to Bed Bath and Beyond to pick up the folding clothes drying racks........I personaly have only used the dryer twice........for a quilt and bed sheets.

Hey...........it's a hotter summer here than it has in like 8 years..........AC running 24/7..........I'm turning frugal as I age......

I did try that in a limited area of the basement, but was told to stop.

The PTB feel that because that is where the furnace is, it constitutes a fire hazard.

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The Farmers Daughter wrote:

One Day wrote:

do you have a dry basement?

Run lines in the basement..........My own utility room which is off the den is not a finished room.......In winter I used to put all my sweatshirts and sweats on hangers and hang them on the plumbing pipes.

Just last week I went to Bed Bath and Beyond to pick up the folding clothes drying racks........I personaly have only used the dryer twice........for a quilt and bed sheets.

Hey...........it's a hotter summer here than it has in like 8 years..........AC running 24/7..........I'm turning frugal as I age......

I did try that in a limited area of the basement, but was told to stop.

The PTB feel that because that is where the furnace is, it constitutes a fire hazard.

 

Only if it is realy, realy close to the furnace.....gotta go with what the ptb wants

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I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking "EASIER???!!"

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I love sheets fresh off the line myself.  

But I seriously do not see how this would make your life easier.  It's a lot easier to toss those sheets right in the dryer and take them out while they're still warm.

Would I do it at an inn?  Depends entirely on the setting.  I can certainly see some places getting away with it.  

But for most inns, no I don't think it would work.  

And I'm guessing that since the owner vetoed the idea, the demographics at your inn would not be a good match, FD.  

 

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While we were waiting on the electrician, I did over 60 loads of bedding at the laundromat and brought it back to hang outside. (Many trips!)  I remembered the way the PO hung the sheets, not over the line, but lengthwise with the edges clipped to the line.  I found that doing this most of the wrinkles in the all cotton sheets came out, and it was very easy to fold them as I took them down, much easier than folding them out of the dryer once we got it going.  I do like the smell of air dried linens, but  all that said, I just ordered a big new dryer!

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Two years ago my washer died and I had to go to the laundromat for over a week. More like 2 weeks. Everyday. 8 loads of wash. At least. It got me out of the house for 2 hours but that was about all it was good for. As much as I hate laundry, I'd rather do it at home where I can do 50 other things at the same time!

Hanging out the laundry with 8 loads/day, just isn't going to happen here! I'd be taking up half the yard with the clothesline.

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Yes, line drying them does lessen the wrinkles (I always forget to unload the dryer right away - and my new dryer being a cheap model does not have a "come empty me because I am done" buzzer) although since I am not a great folder, they still get creases in the wrong places.

As hot as it has been, I was not happy hanging them..... or taking them down!

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i agree with catlady.  i find carrying loads of wash outside, hanging it to dry, bringing it in, then folding and putting away a lot more work than using the dryer.  just a little personal laundry i might like it, but not inn laundry.  sheets and towels and various items for multiple rooms!  wow!  now an heirloom quilt or two i could see ....

it is great for the environment, great for the laundry i think (as long as you don't have seagulls that use it for target practice)  but the owners have the say on this one. 

some people don't want to see laundry hanging outside ... as a guest, which room would have a view of the laundry?  judging from the 'snob zoning' rules against clotheslines, your guests might not like it.  besides, you know they think all chores are magically done by the housekeeping fairies! 

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I'm also glad that someone else talked about the work involved in line drying laundry for a lot of rooms.  Plus, it's so hot & humid here that I would be dead from heat stroke lugging all that in and out in the heat here.  It was easier to pop in & out of the laundry rooms while doing something else and swapping out loads of wash.  The machines went all afternoon and into the early evening here. 

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