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Loved this!

I'm still thinking about how great it would be to start a day with breakfast in "the elegant breakfast room at Harbor Light Inn in Marblehead, MA". Not just elegant, but seems so clean, crisp, cheery. It might be well worth the trouble to copy that look! Maybe couldn't reproduce the wall of glass, but the table dressings could be doable by anybody.

And now that I have my new Keurig machines, I'm glad to see them say that "coffee represented “low-hanging fruit”–easy to improve upon and impress guests".

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I have found K  coffee  machines make weak coffee . We use our own coffee in pods and it has been better.

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Flower wrote:

I have found K  coffee  machines make weak coffee . We use our own coffee in pods and it has been better.

uh it depends on the coffee in the K.

coffee. I just read the first part of the article. Without having an espresso machine, it is not easy to be all things to all people at an inn If a guest had the coffee i myself drink they may not be able to handle it. Where do our guests come from? You saw the image i took this past Fall of Nescafe here and said "who is in the house?"

Australians typically drink nescafe...and yet when lived there i had an espresso every morning, from the storefront of the Remington Center in downtown Sydney...all my DoD buddies came to work early and we would b.s. with our cafe lattes or whatever, each morning. These coffees were offered all over Australia, but the at home typical meat and veg Ozzies drank Nescafe with cream and sugar and blech. They never askedif you  wanted cream or sugar, they delivered it to you this way in a mug.

meanwhile my friends offered a stronger real coffee, french pressed coffee..."plunger" as it was called there. I know, not that attractive sounding. The issue with coffee in Oz was quality control. There was none!

The PacNw did not invent strong coffee, or espresso. It is popular there, just as Dunken Donuts is popular in the NE. Starbucks is from Seattle and many others like Tully's coffee, and "Seattle's worst" er "Best" as we called it. The comute and grey skies are conducent to coffee. 

so all that to say...it is not an entire region really. People drink variations of coffee every where. The real question is:

                  Should a B&B offer better than service station coffee? Yes!

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Flower wrote:

I have found K  coffee  machines make weak coffee . We use our own coffee in pods and it has been better.

In addition to the coffee you select, it also depends on the cup size setting, at least on my machines. With mine, after inserting the k-cup, to brew your coffee you select the serving size you want: small cup 5.25 oz., small mug 7.25 oz., or large mug 9.25 oz. In other words, you can select how strong or how diluted you want it.

I guarantee you, if you select an "extra bold" coffee and the "small cup" setting, you will NOT get weak coffee! It pretty much becomes an espresso maker!

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Sorry, that's still called weak coffee around here. Or as we call it, brown coloured water.

We use about a scoop of coffee per cup of coffee around here. The premeasured packs (usually 1.5oz) aren't strong enough for us, it's usually a 2oz pack and dark roast.

Then again, SB had to reformulate their coffee and make it stronger around here... cause no one would drink their brown coloured water when they first came to town.

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Sorry, that's still called weak coffee around here. Or as we call it, brown coloured water.

Perhaps. I can only judge in comparison to the espresso they've served me on multiple visits to Rome, Umbria, Tuscany, and Madrid.

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Sugar Bear wrote:

Sorry, that's still called weak coffee around here. Or as we call it, brown coloured water.

Perhaps. I can only judge in comparison to the espresso they've served me on multiple visits to Rome, Umbria, Tuscany, and Madrid.

Touche Jamison, er in Eer they drink instant for the most part, blech

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Touche Jamison, er in Eer they drink instant for the most part, blech

Speak to me not of Nescafe and the Irish. My heart, but not my genes, lies in Mediterranean climates...and diet. But, alas, there be no whisky there.

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We have an espresso maker for that. Even with espresso there are levels of strength. But other than two or three K-Cup pods we have found that the results are too weak for us. The fill your own pods that we use do have enough to make a pretty good brew though. But the closet from a pod we have had to espresso is an allogé, an elongated espresso, basically a little more than double the water and pull time.

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We have three different K  machines . YES   the pods do  differ. WE have tried many kinds and do offer many kinds to our guest. AS coffee taste are different for each person.

The pods we like the best is free trade  from Costco. but not all like it. press coffee I love the most as it is stronger and of course it depends on the coffee you choose. Our guest  can have a choice of press coffee or K CUPS OR instant. we offer all to them It s in the cupboards along with different cup sizes and it is up to them which kind they use. But of us serving coffee at breakfast we do our own blend , which most remark on how good it is.

As we now have traveled over 5 thousand miles across the northern USA and down the eastern sea board, I found the coffee very mild to coloured water. Even the odd sta r bu  cks coffee shops were  not the strong coffee. they gave. Told us their clients prefer the lighter taste..

What I say is not every one in this business. has to feel they have to go out and buy thee best coffee espresso machine for there clients. Offering different choices will go a long way with people.

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We have three different K  machines . YES   the pods do  differ. WE have tried many kinds and do offer many kinds to our guest. AS coffee taste are different for each person.

The pods we like the best is free trade  from Costco. but not all like it. press coffee I love the most as it is stronger and of course it depends on the coffee you choose. Our guest  can have a choice of press coffee or K CUPS OR instant. we offer all to them It s in the cupboards along with different cup sizes and it is up to them which kind they use. But of us serving coffee at breakfast we do our own blend , which most remark on how good it is.

As we now have traveled over 5 thousand miles across the northern USA and down the eastern sea board, I found the coffee very mild to coloured water. Even the odd sta r bu  cks coffee shops were  not the strong coffee. they gave. Told us their clients prefer the lighter taste..

What I say is not every one in this business. has to feel they have to go out and buy thee best coffee espresso machine for there clients. Offering different choices will go a long way with people.

BUT...I am sorry I had to say this as well.

There are TWO things at play on your RV trip. #1 you are in the land of snowbirds, you are traveling where all the Canadians are currently snowbirding. And #2, you are also in the land of the NE snowbirders, those who live in the NE and go south for the winter.

So that is something to keep in mind. Where my PARENTS snowbird in the Imperial Valley of Calf (which is 80-90% Canooks wintering there) they have everything set for them, even the Mexican restaurants are milder or the Canadians won't eat there.

Just wanted to bring perspective to it.

As for Starbucks, many moons ago, hm what year 2001I think, or aorund then, they brought in the automated machines. When they did this they lost the Barristas and just hired anyone who could pull a coffee. All of us in the PacNW went ballistic over this, they lost the ability to make a cup how we wanted and it was all automated from there on out. 

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In The Beginning we were not in Snow bird country. IT was not till we  Hilton Head we saw Canadian plates.Yes we have seen North American snow bird s too. 

But Montana ,both Dakota's. MN, Iowa ,Illinois,  Indiana, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey  Delaware .I don't think that is normally called snow bird area? But I maybe wrong?

YOU MEAN SOME Canadian won't have hot spices any time .Ha ha what they really miss out on. But some do as we have a lot of mex restaurants plus west Indians, and Jamaican who also have very spicy food . Us Canucks Love spicy food .Possibility a different kind of heat though.

I can understand about STar. thanks. Today we went to Star and they were serving pikes blend not too bad EH!

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You mentioned the coffee in the south. I mentioned snowbirds. You did not say coffee in Montana was weak. Virginia Beach has more campers/rv's from Canada than anywhere else. ..And on down the line to Florida. 

Typical Canadian fare is bland. I am not speaking about metro areas which are very international, i am speaking about the avg Canadian meal. Just like in the USA you would find people from all backgrounds and ethnic flavors. 

The avg British meal is bland, of course they love curries etc in the cities. The avg Irish meal is bland, and in fact hard to find a good meal eating out in Ireland unless paying big euros at a fine dining restaurant. Avg fare is not spicy. 

I cant even remember why Ia was saying this... Haha anyway, it is not just me, it is a common knowledge thing, like "Americans in the south like sweet tea" i don't, but majority do. 

It's all fun! Have a blast at the PAII conf! Hope yall get to meet some innmates form the forum!

 

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Sorry...... but Canadians come from all parts of the world and are encourage  to keep there diversity.  As  a result we have a wide section of food out there. The French Canadian on this forum would not called their food bland.  We live in a small town and have Jamaican food, Indian, British Chinese, both schuchen ? and a mild form of mandarin. Plus we have German Gasthaus with very Germany food. By far it is not bland. Even small prairie towns  have at least a Chinese restaurant and often other ethnic fair. Yes these are Canadians.

I am saying this only to clear misconceptions about Canadians.

I also have seen with my own eyes a fair amount of Canadians in LA and AZ. The west go to LA and AZ. & Mexico. 

 The East go to M beach and Virginia beach. Yes also to Florida.

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Arks wrote:

Loved this!

I'm still thinking about how great it would be to start a day with breakfast in "the elegant breakfast room at Harbor Light Inn in Marblehead, MA". Not just elegant, but seems so clean, crisp, cheery. It might be well worth the trouble to copy that look! Maybe couldn't reproduce the wall of glass, but the table dressings could be doable by anybody.

And now that I have my new Keurig machines, I'm glad to see them say that "coffee represented “low-hanging fruit”–easy to improve upon and impress guests".

low hanging value...

Like offering a cold drink upon arrival/check in.

Hm, did anyone do this or have this on our road trip?  Ha ha Bob did and it was over an icy path to get to it. Bob had a whole guest goodie CABIN! I was impressed. 

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No  Keurig here but when I opened in 2002  I put Grind & Brew coffee machines in each of my 3 cottage/rooms. Beans are in their refrig's in each room so guest can pick what they want. So far just good comments. All King beds here . But I always wanted an outdoor shower , maybe I'll get around to that. Like this article, good food for thought !

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Woohoo! My Keurig just arrived. My mugs & Arkie's fit it - YEA!! Looks as if a large will be about a half mug but such is life. I am ordering some of the refill cups so I can offer them too with MY coffees. No more getting up at 5 AM for early coffee!!

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The Jumping Rocks blog has further encouraged me to go ahead with my plans this year of going from two dining tables (one for 4 and one for 6), to five 2-seater tables. I cannot wait!!

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Thanks! As usual, great photos. I always end up with ideas from reading these blogs.

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Our friends have a 'coffee system' installed in their guest pantry. It even froths the milk. Can guests USE it? ie- make a cup of coffee? Not usually. Many, many mornings the innkeepers will come down to make breakfast and find the coffee machine totally botched up.

Printed directions? Didn't help. They finally had to resort to covering some of the buttons with tape to avoid guests trying to use what they didn't understand.

We did a taste test weekend here with our new coffee provider. They sent a box of samples and we tried them out on guests over the course of a weekend. Same people here both days. Different coffees sampled on both days. We let that particular group determine what everyone else was going to drink. Better still, most of the guests were repeats (we have weekends like that) so they knew how well they liked/disliked the previous coffee.

A lot of our guests now leave here on their way to the grocery store to buy that coffee. We're going to sell it next year. (Just have to get my butt in gear and set up an account with the vendor!)

Coffee is like pillows and eggs - very personal. We have guests who bring their own Keurig with them. In 10 years I have not been able to get them to drink any of the different coffees we have used. They like what they like. (And, in redecorating 'their' room I had to keep in mind where would their coffee machine go.)

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