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Howdy. For the last few hectic days, I've been reading posts here. My husband and I have laughed and commiserated with all the kindred spirits here, so I decided to join.
This is our 18th season keeping inn in a summer tourist area near a National Park. We have a 3-room b&b, which we run ourselves. Hubby also has a full time job outside the home.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.)
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
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I refuse to give them the 3 letters they stole from my industry. Undercutting rates because they are not paying the fees and taxes we are - and I am NOT referring to the sales tax. As a commercial property (once money crosses palms it is commercial), I am charged the highest rate possible on my real estate tax bill. That is far more than I would be paying as a residence. The proliferation of them is also killing our industry as it siphons off guests (revenue) from the REAL B & Bs and creates a perception of us real B & Bs that is incorrect re service and what we are.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
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I refuse to give them the 3 letters they stole from my industry. Undercutting rates because they are not paying the fees and taxes we are - and I am NOT referring to the sales tax. As a commercial property (once money crosses palms it is commercial), I am charged the highest rate possible on my real estate tax bill. That is far more than I would be paying as a residence. The proliferation of them is also killing our industry as it siphons off guests (revenue) from the REAL B & Bs and creates a perception of us real B & Bs that is incorrect re service and what we are.
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ahh, I see. Thanks so much for the fast reply!
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
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I refuse to give them the 3 letters they stole from my industry. Undercutting rates because they are not paying the fees and taxes we are - and I am NOT referring to the sales tax. As a commercial property (once money crosses palms it is commercial), I am charged the highest rate possible on my real estate tax bill. That is far more than I would be paying as a residence. The proliferation of them is also killing our industry as it siphons off guests (revenue) from the REAL B & Bs and creates a perception of us real B & Bs that is incorrect re service and what we are.
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ahh, I see. Thanks so much for the fast reply!
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You are quite welcome. I try to educate all to the reality of AIR - at least from my perspective. I resent them and the OTAs that come in, do nothing but co-opt marketing so we do not have a chance to get before the public on a search, then charge an exhorbitant fee for them giving us the privilege of providing the service we have always done, but now under THEIR terms and conditions. And the industry follows like lemmings, not believing that IF we took a stand and did not give them product, they would die on the vine - they have NO ROOMS of their own to provide. They NEED ours.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
Hello from Canada;
You are much too good and you love being a B&B owner to give it up. And then what the heck you gonna do with all the tea, coffee and Electric car hook-up. Stick around, as you are one of the best!
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
Hello from Canada;
You are much too good and you love being a B&B owner to give it up. And then what the heck you gonna do with all the tea, coffee and Electric car hook-up. Stick around, as you are one of the best!
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Thanks. I have come to realize I am too lazy to give it up. Sorting through 25 years of paperwork - what to keep, what to shred, what is sentimental that the kids will toss anyway - is more than I have gumprion to deal with. I think I will just let the kids toss it in the dumpster. No one will want the dishes, the silver, etc. Even an auction will leave them with several dumpsters to get rid of.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
24 years is like 4 burnouts!
Congrats on making it that long.
I understand completely about the Air problem. Many years ago, they were recruiting hosts where I'm located, and I had never heard of them, so gave it a try for a season. WORST guests ever, cost me a ton of money in damages ppl annoyed because I collected taxes, DUH. The kicker though was a nice couple who stayed with me. Told us how thrilled they were to be hosts themselves because in their area, their property coul not be licensed. I bailed post haste.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
24 years is like 4 burnouts!
Congrats on making it that long.
I understand completely about the Air problem. Many years ago, they were recruiting hosts where I'm located, and I had never heard of them, so gave it a try for a season. WORST guests ever, cost me a ton of money in damages ppl annoyed because I collected taxes, DUH. The kicker though was a nice couple who stayed with me. Told us how thrilled they were to be hosts themselves because in their area, their property coul not be licensed. I bailed post haste.
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I listed when it first started because someone I trusted said I should. (Today I think she would agree with me.) It did not take me long to come to the conclusion that MY 3% commission was going into a pot of advertising money I could never compete with. I decided I was not going to contribute to the demise of my industry that was being undercut by people who were not following the rules and regs I had to adhere to, Bye-bye AIR with no regrets.
 

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Unfortunately I think Air is here to stay and I’m competing against $50 per night places and a soon to be built 200 room hotel half a mile away. So even though I have found myself to be well equipped personality wise to be an innkeeper, I don’t have the personality of a Maytag washing machine repairman.
I had had to fight with the city and county every step of the way in order to even open this place, resulting in months of delay and tens of thousands of $$ just to be in compliance with all regs. Then 2 years later Air comes along. It did take several years for Air to reach this midwestern non-touristy town, but it’s here now. This year the revenue hasn’t kept up with expenses for the first time, so I’m retiring before I have a chance to burn out.
Our town never recovered from the Great Recession, so there is much to be done in regards to volunteering. I’m all set to go back to elementary school in the fall, and am looking forward to all the other mischief I can find.
 

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Unfortunately I think Air is here to stay and I’m competing against $50 per night places and a soon to be built 200 room hotel half a mile away. So even though I have found myself to be well equipped personality wise to be an innkeeper, I don’t have the personality of a Maytag washing machine repairman.
I had had to fight with the city and county every step of the way in order to even open this place, resulting in months of delay and tens of thousands of $$ just to be in compliance with all regs. Then 2 years later Air comes along. It did take several years for Air to reach this midwestern non-touristy town, but it’s here now. This year the revenue hasn’t kept up with expenses for the first time, so I’m retiring before I have a chance to burn out.
Our town never recovered from the Great Recession, so there is much to be done in regards to volunteering. I’m all set to go back to elementary school in the fall, and am looking forward to all the other mischief I can find..
Innkeep said:
I’m all set to go back to elementary school in the fall, and am looking forward to all the other mischief I can find.
Enjoy yourself and your move on to the next phase!
 

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Welcome Momdog.

As of July 2 we started year #21. I can't believe it...some days it feels like yesterday and some days I feel like it has been my whole life!

The great times and the hard times make innkeeping an interesting life.

Enjoy the group, and chime in as often as you wish!
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
Hello from Canada;
You are much too good and you love being a B&B owner to give it up. And then what the heck you gonna do with all the tea, coffee and Electric car hook-up. Stick around, as you are one of the best!
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Thanks. I have come to realize I am too lazy to give it up. Sorting through 25 years of paperwork - what to keep, what to shred, what is sentimental that the kids will toss anyway - is more than I have gumprion to deal with. I think I will just let the kids toss it in the dumpster. No one will want the dishes, the silver, etc. Even an auction will leave them with several dumpsters to get rid of.
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Not too many years back we wondered it we should retire, looked at options, problem was nothing that might have fit financially looked as interesting as continuing our present life, nothing beats being happy with your daily life.
 

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Welcome Momdog.

As of July 2 we started year #21. I can't believe it...some days it feels like yesterday and some days I feel like it has been my whole life!

The great times and the hard times make innkeeping an interesting life.

Enjoy the group, and chime in as often as you wish!.
Thank you!
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
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So interestingly enough, deep in our air listings descriptions of each of our rooms (trying to steal back as much $$$ as possible) I mention that there is a savings to book directly with us. So far this month 3 of the 5 air bookings we got have googled us and contacted us directly!
The difference of what the guest pays you ask:
  1. Room rate
  2. taxes
  3. air fees
Book directly and eliminate one of those!
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
.
So interestingly enough, deep in our air listings descriptions of each of our rooms (trying to steal back as much $$$ as possible) I mention that there is a savings to book directly with us. So far this month 3 of the 5 air bookings we got have googled us and contacted us directly!
The difference of what the guest pays you ask:
  1. Room rate
  2. taxes
  3. air fees
Book directly and eliminate one of those!
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...and we mostly list on air to compete with other local B&B's/rentals that do.
Still had to correct one "youngster" who asked how long we had been doing our air bnb....Grrrrrrrr!
Plus had deal with others (youngsters and air bnbers) that no-show for breakfast when it is sitting on the table...
But the money still spends the same..
 

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Hello, and welcome. Shelley and I are starting our 5th year as full time innkeepers here in the Ozark Mountains. Just in our short time, we've had a lot of ups and downs, disasters and miracles.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
What is the AIR problem?
.
I refuse to give them the 3 letters they stole from my industry. Undercutting rates because they are not paying the fees and taxes we are - and I am NOT referring to the sales tax. As a commercial property (once money crosses palms it is commercial), I am charged the highest rate possible on my real estate tax bill. That is far more than I would be paying as a residence. The proliferation of them is also killing our industry as it siphons off guests (revenue) from the REAL B & Bs and creates a perception of us real B & Bs that is incorrect re service and what we are.
.
ahh, I see. Thanks so much for the fast reply!
.
You are quite welcome. I try to educate all to the reality of AIR - at least from my perspective. I resent them and the OTAs that come in, do nothing but co-opt marketing so we do not have a chance to get before the public on a search, then charge an exhorbitant fee for them giving us the privilege of providing the service we have always done, but now under THEIR terms and conditions. And the industry follows like lemmings, not believing that IF we took a stand and did not give them product, they would die on the vine - they have NO ROOMS of their own to provide. They NEED ours.
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That is what I try to tell innkeepers and hotel personals. If we take all our rooms off the OTAs, they will be gone this afternoon or tomorrow morning. No one believes me! They just continue to grump about OTAs.
 

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Welcome. July 3, I started year #24.
I have been contemplating trying to sell once I get around to making the owner's quarters look like "real people" would live here. I think I have come to the conclusion (very recently actually) that the reason I have not stirred my stumps to do that is because I really do not want to quit. Also, I do not think it would be fair to unload on someone else until the AIR problem (among others crippling our industry) gets resolved. (Also the thought of packing up even just MY stuff to move is daunting and I do not have near as much STUFF as Himself had. Mine will be easier to hit the dumpster with.).
24 years is like 4 burnouts!
Congrats on making it that long.
I understand completely about the Air problem. Many years ago, they were recruiting hosts where I'm located, and I had never heard of them, so gave it a try for a season. WORST guests ever, cost me a ton of money in damages ppl annoyed because I collected taxes, DUH. The kicker though was a nice couple who stayed with me. Told us how thrilled they were to be hosts themselves because in their area, their property coul not be licensed. I bailed post haste.
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Welcome, Momdog! DH and I are in our 30th year of innkeeping, like you in a 2 suite, 1 cottage in a National Park. So kindred spirits indeed!
We have built our brand and refused the Airbnb craze along with all the OTA's and it has worked just fine for us. While we are currently winding down to about 30% of our normal workload, we still enjoy our quality guests and the income they provide to us. What part of the country are you located in?
 
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