This topic got me to thinking. I may put a disclaimer on our "breakfast" page of our website stating that, while we try to accomodate dietary restrictions, this should not be misconstrued that we are in any way keeping a kosher kitchen.
This has really not been a problem for us because of our geographic location, but we had to make a similar statement to let people know that we are not ADA compliant. As long as people know up front, those that have dietary or other issues will go elsewhere..
Instead, I would give them a yogurt (OU kosher), some fruit, bottled orange juice, plastic cutlery, plastic plate, paper napkin, bread (if I can easily get some kosher bread, otherwise a box of kosher crackers), styrofoam cup and a small unopened 1/2 quart of milk. Anyone who keeps kosher and has to travel will
kvell over how much trouble you went for them. Take my word for it, the fact that it's all closed packaging and all marked OU kosher would make them very happy, because they know you respect them.
Anyone who is so religious as to require "
cholov yisrael" won't be staying at your place and wouldn't even think of eating anything from your kitchen.
To be 100% honest, if I saw that disclaimer, I would book elsewhere. I'm not religious and I don't keep kosher, but that disclaimer reads very differently in my mind. I'm assuming that that isn't your intent, but honestly, that is how I would see it.
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Eric Arthur Blair said:
To be 100% honest, if I saw that disclaimer, I would book elsewhere.
Frankly it would not be worded so abruptly. I merely stated it that plainly as an example. Besides, I don't see how you could read that disclaimer about food prep as anti-semetic.
We live in Podunk, Texas. This town is 99.9% Baptist. There is one small grocery store besides a redneck Walmart. Do you honestly think they carry kosher food anywhere in this town? I'm just saying you can't expect kosher when the predominent population and diet is not.
We discourage individuals in wheelchairs because of our property's rough terrain. That does not mean we discriminate against individuals with disabilities. They can come here if they want, but they'll have a hell of time navigating our property. So it is with individuals wanting a kosher meal. We can't serve it, so they should know up front.
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Proud Texan said:
Eric Arthur Blair said:
To be 100% honest, if I saw that disclaimer, I would book elsewhere.
Frankly it would not be worded so abruptly. I merely stated it that plainly as an example. Besides, I don't see how you could read that disclaimer about food prep as anti-semetic.
We live in Podunk, Texas. This town is 99.9% Baptist. There is one small grocery store besides a redneck Walmart. Do you honestly think they carry kosher food anywhere in this town? I'm just saying you can't expect kosher when the predominent population and diet is not.
Read the labels and look at the packaging. You might be quite surprised at what the Redneck Walmart in Podunk has that is in fact Kosher. My podunk town of 36K people with a .0001% population of jewish people carries a huge amount of kosher items in their Walmart. Not by choice simply because of manufacturing.
Enteman's Donuts
Most Pillsbury and Betty Crocker Mixes
Walmart brand Cranberry Apple Juice
Stoneyfield farm yogurt is not only kosher but gluten free.
Just to name a few.
Look at the packaging of things in your pantry now. I would bet there is more kosher food in your pantry than you might expect to find at podunk walmart.
I will readily admit there is less kosher prepackaged food of certain varieties than others but, there is more of many of the items one might prepare for breakfast than one might expect. Fruit is easy, it is kosher by nature, unless you rubbed it with pork or shell fish before serving it, which no one in their right mind would do.
Eggs are PARVE therefore neutral, can be served with either meat or cheese providing they are from a chicken, duck, goose, cornish hen or turkey. Bread is pareve, therefore unless you add milk or butter or serve with butter it can be served with meat or dairy.
A simple and very acceptable alternative to Eric's very correct assertion would be:
Pancakes, fresh fruit, scrambled eggs (with cheese if you like and any other vegetables), potatoes/hasbrowns cooked in vegetable oil, salmon such as lox or even mixed in the scrambled eggs, even a wonderful rice or bread pudding could be made if no meat was being served.
It isn't all that hard, it is just a little different, and as Eric pointed out, if anyone keeps strict kosher they won't eat anything you serve if you cooked it yourself in your kitchen. Prepackaged and disposable serving/eating utensils would be the only way to go, and yes they would kvell at the effort you took to be so incredibly respectful, probably garnering an outstanding review.
Case in point and I will be done with this long winded post....
A good friend of the family, his family keeps strict kosher, no non kosher food enters their home. When my DS (and the rest of the teenage herd) goes over their after a large group out to dinner, and they have togo/doggie bags, they leave them in the garage. However when this young man is in my home, he happily eats what ever I prepare in the kosher style. He heartily begs for my DD Orange Bread, begs for my special fried baked potatoes slathered with cheese (bought at walmart) and gobbles every all beef hotdog or hamburger as they come off the grill.
I leave you with this one thought, would you say the same to someone who said they are gluten free or lactose intolerant? If your answer is yes then, as JB put it send them her way she would happily accommodate. Or is it that it is unfamiliar to you, and therefore more difficult to understand. Frankly it is way easier than a GF menu, been there done that for 6 weeks when my oldest was being tested for celiac, and she wasn't even living at home at the time.