If we came back for a week this summer...

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Where would you recommend we stay?

 

Yes a real question today from a guest. Don't you love that. We are only here for one nighters, I suppose.

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broken heart that is heart breaking ... really.  i know how hard you work to give each guest a wonderful stay.  it's a rude slap in the face. no other way around it. 

if it's all about the $ verses $$ or $$$ then so be it. 

she will get what she pays for.

i've been tempted to do the air thing but i'm nervous about going to some random person's house and staying in a room ... could be a nut, could be nice. but no regulations, no license, just an ad and a membership (or do they even have to join something to rent?) going by myself ... it scares the heck out of me.  

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Why NOT stay at an AirBnB lodging choice?

Write your own or share my article. Cheers

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This is a blog worthy topic. If anyone bloggs... yes

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The AirBnB was in Tacoma WA. 

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You know the awful truth? I would absolutely HATE to stay in a room at someone's home. I hate staying with friends or family too. Yes, I said it. I do. I want to relax. 

Things that means I can't relax? Tippytoeing because I don't know what's intended for me. Towels that don't match. Worrying about them coming into the room. Worrying that I may upset them. Worrying that they don't keep a clean home, that the towels haven't really been washed. That they don't know how to prepare food for breakfast. That they may be angry because I used too much soap, shampoo or I came in too early or left too late. That the bed won't be firm enough, that it won't be too firm, etc. etc. etc. 

And then there is the other side of it.. the apartment. Then I have another set of worries, like will it be as it was supposed to. Why the heck would I want a kitchen? So I can cook? So much for really getting a taste of the town. And does that mean I have to clean up after myself? Where is everything. Who's used those dishes before me? Will the knife be dull?

I'm on vacation. Someone make my breakfast, make my bed, let me relax and stop worrying! Oh and that coffee you served me today? It's brown water.... do you have anything stronger? (Yes, at hotels we use the two packets to make one cup and we still think it's weak!)

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Funny how we are in the people biz and this is how we think.

But you are spot on.

I would feel the same way. What's for me to use? What shouldn't I touch? What if I break something? What if something is already broken, will they blame me? What if they don't mention the 3 cats or the 130 lb dog? What if there's no lock on the door? Am I going to be the next viral video on YouTube? 'Old lady in my shower.'

I don't want to share my relaxation space with strangers. I want to relax. I get this way when I realize the B&B has no guest common space and I'm sharing with the innkeepers. Not comfortable.

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Madeleine wrote:

Funny how we are in the people biz and this is how we think.

But you are spot on.

I would feel the same way. What's for me to use? What shouldn't I touch? What if I break something? What if something is already broken, will they blame me? What if they don't mention the 3 cats or the 130 lb dog? What if there's no lock on the door? Am I going to be the next viral video on YouTube? 'Old lady in my shower.'

I don't want to share my relaxation space with strangers. I want to relax. I get this way when I realize the B&B has no guest common space and I'm sharing with the innkeepers. Not comfortable.

her mentality was "we only need a place to sleep" and yet, that was not the case here.

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She'll do it until the point of where she will run into the problems, or age will change how she feels about things and then she will never do it again and never bat an eyelash about it.

When I was in my 20s, I stayed in youth hostels, shared room, didn't care about the bed, bunkbed... sure! Offer me that today and I'll look at you like you are clearly nucking futs. 

Reminds me of the opaque hotel reservation sites and the bid for a hotel sites. At one time these were offering something exciting and interesting and sometimes you got something great. And then the troubled hotels discovered them. Now they could anonymously sell you their worst room in the house, the hotel in the odd location that no one wants to stay there. The hotel room right under the night club. The place next to the needle exchange. The hotel that you wouldn't even send your mother-in-law to stay in, never mind your ex's mother-in-law. 

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see that's never been me (a symptom of a BB child?) wouldn't put up with crappy stays and knew what I could get for my money!

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camberleyhotelharrogate@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

see that's never been me (a symptom of a BB child?) wouldn't put up with crappy stays and knew what I could get for my money!

She didn't have a crappy stay. Not sure if you were replying to me or another, but she enjoyed the $55 room. That is the point, she thinks we B&B's will be obsolete. Made me see red! haha

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no my comment was connected to Eric saying he would share rooms in youth hostels etc when he was young - Me I was Waaaay to fussy for that!

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camberleyhotelharrogate@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

no my comment was connected to Eric saying he would share rooms in youth hostels etc when he was young - Me I was Waaaay to fussy for that!

Oh right. 

Yeahhhh we all did some things we wonder how we did or why we did when we were young... haha 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

camberleyhotelharrogate@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

no my comment was connected to Eric saying he would share rooms in youth hostels etc when he was young - Me I was Waaaay to fussy for that!

Oh right. 

Yeahhhh we all did some things we wonder how we did or why we did when we were young... haha 

Sleeping in the car, camping out in a beat up van, driving 20 hours straight from ny to fl. Where does the time go?

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Hey, Maddie, we did that from Maine to NW of Chicago because I thought school started the next day. We had 4 kids, DH & me in a 5 passenger Jeep - the final leg of a month-long trip. WHERE WAS MY BRAIN? I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER!

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I've done the 12-16 hours of driving stupidity before. From here to the coast. From here to North Carolina. ALONE in a car. 

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Doing it with 4 kids - 2 of whom HATE each other - makes being alone for that drive heaven. I have done the Illinois to WV (which is a 12 hour) alone many times. My worst stupidity was going from the NW burbs to Muncie the morning after an overnight ice storm. (Semis were in ditches.) I had taken a vacation day to go to Ball State to see my little brother play basketball (then College of Steubenville - now Franciscan University). My Mother chickened out so I went anyway. I do not think I went over 30 mph the whole way. The return trip was beautiful. And quite honestly, I remember he played about 2 minutes in the game but I do not remember anything else - not even the stadium!

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Actually, K was replying to me. As a student we may be willing to accept some things that we don't now.

She's a prat. I don't know why you are bothering with her at all, S.

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Oh my gosh!!!!! I can picture the look on your face when they said that! I could of pushed you over with a feather. I would of given her a novel to read of all the things we all have to do in a day to be an Innkeeper. Then asked her to read it and let you know if she would be willing to do all this work for $55 at her house! Good grief!!!

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And then she can contemplate whether the person whose room she is sleeping in cares enough to see to all of that.

But, of course, she has found the grail so she will think of course they do. Until the day they don't.

Impossible to convince this person what we do is worth anything. Because it's not worth anything to her.

I'm sure she'd be happy to work for 1/3 of her pay if her boss thought that's all she was worth.

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Where would you recommend we stay?

Yes a real question today from a guest. Don't you love that. We are only here for one nighters, I suppose.

First of all, you are the only property listed on ArseBnB in your area anyway.  

I would tell her that you don't make recommendations, but she is welcome to try ArseBnB. For $55 she can likely get a lovely place in Roanoke. I hear that the Airport Plaza is reasonable, too. 

But honestly, I would have simply agreed with her, obviously that's what she's looking for. May the BBs bite her in the a$$.

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Okay so as I poured my cereal this person wanted to talk...she told me all about airBnB and how B&B's are a thing of the past...

Went on and on about how no one wants a B&B, when they can pay $55 to stay in a beautiful place.

I told her a few things. I disagreed with her. I told her about licensing, insurance, permits, etc. I mentioned for example when the Olympics are in your city they give a special permit to open any and every SOFA for lodging to bring in the $, that is not the way it is normally. And she mentioned NYC and I told her how the hotels with big $ are trying to shut out the licensed, inspected and approved LEGAL B&B's...imagine many of the illegal lodgings like those on Air BnB there.

It doesn't matter. She thinks $55 a night is where it is at. I am not happy. I told here there is overhead to running a nice bed and breakfast...whatever. angry

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This guest was unbelievably rude and definitely not worth renting space in your head, never mind in your house!  angry

She is not your target market.  I believe that quality B+Bs will always have a market because young, adventurous, non-discriminating guests like this one inevitably age hopefully turning into older, more aware, more thoughtful guests.  Those are our target market.  Let the $55 crowd find their $55 accommodations and good luck to them.  Me?  I'm looking to fill with appreciative, mature adults who want something special, to be pampered a bit and know the difference between a flop house and a B+B!

 

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

Okay so as I poured my cereal this person wanted to talk...she told me all about airBnB and how B&B's are a thing of the past...

Went on and on about how no one wants a B&B, when they can pay $55 to stay in a beautiful place.

I told her a few things. I disagreed with her. I told her about licensing, insurance, permits, etc. I mentioned for example when the Olympics are in your city they give a special permit to open any and every SOFA for lodging to bring in the $, that is not the way it is normally. And she mentioned NYC and I told her how the hotels with big $ are trying to shut out the licensed, inspected and approved LEGAL B&B's...imagine many of the illegal lodgings like those on Air BnB there.

It doesn't matter. She thinks $55 a night is where it is at. I am not happy. I told here there is overhead to running a nice bed and breakfast...whatever. angry

I would not have wasted my breath - they do not understand anything other than what they have made up their minds to believe matters. In this case that she is going to get a quality room (with breakfast?) for $55 per night. I am afraid I would have said, Gee, I am really sorry but I do not KNOW anywhere that is a nice place for $55 per night. Best to you. I have some rooms to get ready for my discerning guests. (OK, I may not have said discerning out loud.)

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of the customers who prefer where they stay has the right fire regs, permits, food hygiene, insurance and pays taxes

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Honestly, it's like talking to a wall. These are the same people who got us to the position of not being able to buy anything that lasts anymore, it's all disposable crap that no one fixes, furniture made by from chipped wood, clothing made from cheap cotton, industrial food that has to be flavoured to taste like anything and corporations that think we are cows for the milking. 

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So, she's adamant that $55 is THE price and what we do is passe. So are hotels. No need for them either. Everyone should sleep on the couch at a stranger's apt.

See, if I get that kind of attitude (totally sure she's right) then I just agree. Yes, you're right. Absolutely. I think you've hit on the best plan. Lay it on thick because all they want is validation that they are right. It costs me nothing to assure them they are absolutely correct and I'm living in a dream world. (As another neighborhood B&B sells for high 6 figures...)

However, this is not something I have done all my life. I would have argued up and down, left and right and told her all about the same things you did. Now I just don't care enough to argue. Ah. Old age. It's a wonderful thing.

Just read that now landlords in SF are evicting long term tenants so they can put their apts on airbnb for a hell of a lot more than they get for a monthly rental.

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and yet she has booked to pay and stay with you - what does that say?

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This was a guest???? NO...no one understands until they experience hell at one of them and then see what happens. Whoever it is has no clue! Let her pay $55 a night and see what she gets!

 

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"So you disliked it here so much you'd rather stay anywhere else I can recommend? OK, here's the skinny..." And then give them the number for the flea bag down the road.

I just think it's a bit of cluelessness on their part. They have a 'cabin' in mind or something like that.

Plus, don't forget a LOT of guests think we're only open on weekends.

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Some people are really clueless. 

I'm able to have a weekly rate but it might not work well for you.

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