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The new Keurig coffee makers will come complete with an electronic eye so that only Green Mountain cups will work. They will have the proprietary license...here comes litigation! No doubt the cost will go up considerably in the future.

"Each Keurig 2.0 brewer will have a camera that can 'read' a proprietary taggant material," Binette says, adding that it's similar to current anti-counterfeiting technology and will be "embedded on the lid of each Keurig brand pack."

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Today was the first time I really wished I had a Keurig.  Afternoon refreshment request - one coffee, one decaf and one hot tea!  Thank goodness for my Bunn... faster than a speeding bullet! 

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This was in the Chi Sun-T imes alert list today

 

http://voices.suntimes.com/business-2/more-starbucks-k-cups-in-the-works/

 

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 i received TWO keurigs for christmas.  one is still in the box.  i am so cheap frugal, i use the fill your own kcups. i was going to give the other keurig away but i wonder if the keurig in the box will still work in a few years when the one i'm using decides it's worn out or develops a problem! 

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We had 3 Foreman grills for the longest time!

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I hate to be controlled. You know, we have a dozen ways to make a cup of coffee...we will go back to any and all of those at a blink of an eye. They better watch out, the commos!

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Joey Bloggs wrote:

They better watch out, the commos!

Unbridled capitalism.

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Hmmm. Just contemplating Sugar Bear after an espresso. I'm staying out of his way, that's for sure!

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Seems that the other k cup brewers should keep working fine.  They lost their patent on the k cup, and that is why they came out with the Vue, which uses pods, not k cups.  I understand they aren't doing as well, maybe this is their response to that?  I am looking at the Bunn My Café MCU...anyone use one?  Supposed to brew a better cup,( brews at higher temp) uses kcups, pods, or ground.

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Well, that just about takes care of any thought I had about purchasing one.  Nope...will continue to make a pot of coffee rather than be forced to buy a product with no competition.

 

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Well, that just about takes care of any thought I had about purchasing one.  Nope...will continue to make a pot of coffee rather than be forced to buy a product with no competition.

I'm with you SS, this whole coffee pod thing seems bonkers to me. Putting aside the whole environmental issue of the things, you're pretty much tied into buying the manufacturers coffee pods forever and the coffee costs around 4 times as much. It all seems like a marketing dream to me.

I have double walled cafetieres/french presses for my guests, everyone likes the coffee, they keep it nice and hot, and so far I've had no compatibility problems with any coffee I've bought. 

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Highlands John wrote:

Silverspoon wrote:

Well, that just about takes care of any thought I had about purchasing one.  Nope...will continue to make a pot of coffee rather than be forced to buy a product with no competition.

I'm with you SS, this whole coffee pod thing seems bonkers to me. Putting aside the whole environmental issue of the things, you're pretty much tied into buying the manufacturers coffee pods forever and the coffee costs around 4 times as much. It all seems like a marketing dream to me.

I have double walled cafetieres/french presses for my guests, everyone likes the coffee, they keep it nice and hot, and so far I've had no compatibility problems with any coffee I've bought. 

We have ours only for 'after hours' so guests can make a cup of coffee in the afternoon or evening. They also have an insert you can use with any coffee you want. Wash the insert and refill.

Yes, tho, the cups are expensive and environmentally awful. One reason we have not also bought the tea and hot cocoa pods.

(In the morning we remove the machine and replace it after breakfast. Which has led to a few guests looking blankly at the coffee carafes in front of them because they have 'machine' in their heads and they see 'carafe with coffee in it' but don't know what to do.)

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We have it for flavoured and decaf. They hardly move at all. We have a number of the reusable pods that we use. It's the only ones that hold enough coffee for a real cup for us. Remember, we like our coffee stronger around here. 

Nespresso is coming out with a machine for the US. http://reviews.cnet.com/espresso-cappuccino-machines/nespresso-vertuoline-red/4505-17878_7-35837779.html which will make a cup of coffee instead of an espresso. They usually have pretty good control over their coffee, so you have to buy from them (though there are a few compatibles.) But the big difference is that they use a lot of pressure to produce their espresso, and it's hermetically sealed, so it doesn't lose potency.It is going to be a really big battle.

We also have a regular nespresso machine. Makes espresso quickly while I'm in the kitchen alone, which is a big deal for us.

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Oh, I love the Nespresso espresso maker! Had one in my room on an upscale beach vacation. I went home and looked for the same machine online and nearly had a heart attack. At that point it was about $600. Needless to say, I didn't buy one for myself.

 

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At 19 bars of pressure it puts out a nice espresso. We have one of the fancier ones that does the milk too, but alas, I think their manual frother is actually better. (And I can get compatible cartridges if I want, but they have a nespresso store, locally anyway.)

But when you are juggling breakfast, it's great to just press a button and let it do it all on it's own. Of course I always end up with the idiots who don't know what they really want because they have been buying from the Pequod's first mate... so they say things like "double espresso" which always makes me wonder if what they really want is an "alloge" (an extended pull). Basically an espresso is 40ml and an alloge is 110ml of water through the same grounds. And they don't know either, they have just been taught to order and don't really know their coffee. It gets incredible akward when you have to ask them the strength of the coffee for their espresso. I have never had a European ask me for a double, yet. Which makes me think that they really want an alloge, but I'm never sure and of course I don't want to upset someone. The alloge in the house is about a 7, we stock coffee for espresso in 10 and 6 and 3 (so basically French roast to Medium roast to light roast).

And honestly, if it wasn't for the flavoured, I would get ride of the Keurig (and still might) since I can just make an espresso and then fill the cup with water and serve an Americano instead. I stock decaf espresso as well.

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Just get one before the new ones come out - and get the reusable pods. That way you have the best of both - less expensive coffee on demand by the cup and not tied to a particular brand.

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People used to crucify Microsoft as the evil empire when they pulled stuff like this. Think of all the foreign governments that fined them billions for trying to squeeze out other web browsers, for example.

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I have some "fill your own" pods so I can use my fresh-roasted when I do not want to make a whole pot (like mornings I am heading out) or for guests who want a cup late at night.

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Those will not work with the new generation (not yet in stores).

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I figured that. Well, I just bought one (finally) and can only hope it was mot made on Monday or Friday so it will last a while.

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It is critical for performance and safety reasons that the system only brews Keurig brand packs.

Tiago says he doesn't want somebody's inferior brand of K-Cup malfunctioning and screwing up his system.

I don't see how a competing cup is likely to "screw up a system", but you fix that with a label "for best results, use only Green Mountain brand k-cups". You don't put in electric eyes unless your point is to kill the competition.

It's like the inkjet refills. To avoid high prices for new ink cartridges, people started buying cheap kits and refilling their empty ink cartridges, so the printer makers started putting in technology to check and reject refilled or generic cartridges.

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It's like the inkjet refills. To avoid high prices for new ink cartridges, people started buying cheap kits and refilling their empty ink cartridges, so the printer makers started putting in technology to check and reject refilled or generic cartridges.

Absolutely. I have an HP Photosmart 6520 printer. I have cheap alternative cartridges in it, because I don't want to pay £30 for a set of HP cartridges. Every time I print I get a warning box on my PC telling me it has non-HP cartridges in it and if I  don't clear the message it stops printing. I've searched online but there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it.

Net result: I will NEVER buy an HP printer again.

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Hmmm. That will cause people to buy equipment from companies that use any pod. But maybe Keurig will fix it where others can't copy their pod size. But if they could do that, no need for the "electronic eye".

I guess they know what they're doing, but it seems like it could be a poor business decision...that is if they want people to buy their coffee makers.

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Arks wrote:

Hmmm. That will cause people to buy equipment from companies that use any pod. But maybe Keurig will fix it where others can't copy their pod size. But if they could do that, no need for the "electronic eye".

I guess they know what they're doing, but it seems like it could be a poor business decision...that is if they want people to buy their coffee makers.

They'll make a ton of $$ if they are able to force others to pay a licensing fee.

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Yup, I saw that. Hope my Keurig holds out another 5 years! We buy the pods all over the place.

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