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The main focus for the last couple of weeks around here has been to learn about social media. As it stands, we have done a TA webinar on SM ROI and have hosted our first influencer. Both events have gone well and generated a lot of information, which I am currently digesting. It's been a little piecemeal because we have been really busy, but we have a couple of days rest and I am trying to put something together to help us figure out how to spend on social media.
Perhaps the most challenging thing is understand and separate SM goals, SM objectives, actionable SM strategies, and the Key Performance Indicators (KPI) we can use to figure out if we are raising awareness, increasing engagement, and improving conversion.
Has anyone been trained on these things? Built them into a marketing plan? Used them to decide whether to do trades with a blogger, a publisher, or an influencer?
Before we kick off the big blogging/SM/marketing campaign, it would be great to hear from those that are ahead of me on these things.
 
Don't have a clue :-(.
There is apparently a huge and growing field around this because it is going to be the new way. We are meeting more and more people who make their living doing SM work for Starwood etc. They get paid a fair amount when they are influences. (over a million followers)
If we are going to blog, I am going to make sure it is worth the trouble- cause it is a lot of trouble.
 
Don't have a clue :-(.
There is apparently a huge and growing field around this because it is going to be the new way. We are meeting more and more people who make their living doing SM work for Starwood etc. They get paid a fair amount when they are influences. (over a million followers)
If we are going to blog, I am going to make sure it is worth the trouble- cause it is a lot of trouble.
.
Blogs are good because one you post it, it is there. I get hits on blogs I did years ago - as far back as 2010. I am not as active as I should be with the blog - been posting photos on FB and watching the engagements and views has been interesting. A few more shares would not hurt - but oh well. I do not have thousands of followers, nor even hundreds. The photos of my playing with the fruit and of my breakfasts have done well.
I have had the blahs lately for writing - need to give me a good, swift kick in the tush.........
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
How did you figure out where your guests were hanging out?
I did a newsletter survey about sm and most of mine were home watching TV.
I have links to everything we're on in the newsletter and none of the links are ever clicked.
My most rabid fb fans are not guests.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time.
Boy you said a mouth full there, you can get sucked in wasting away the day.
But THANKS for the info here, very informative. But how do you determine which SM is best for you? How do you know which mediums they are following?
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I think you are getting way too analytical about this. Just do it! And see where it takes you...Sounds like procrastination to me
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Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Sometimes you just have to jump after doing 'enough' research.
You can still do research but what do you have to show the influencers? Without the give and take it goes nowhere.
One blogger's meat is another's poison. This local blogger may have a lot of followers but it doesn't mean there's a formula. The best 'formula' is to be yourself and put out good content on a regular basis.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
You can actually start by using Google as a resource. What AdWords phrases cost the most for your area? Which ones have the most traffic? Don't start there. ;-)
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
These 2 did not like my town and ran it down every chance they got. "Don't stay in that town, stay here." Things like that. The more I posted, now being in their sights, the more they ran down the town.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I think you are getting way too analytical about this. Just do it! And see where it takes you...Sounds like procrastination to me
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I certainly can understand why you might say that, and I am sure that there is some fear about starting and having it take up too much time etc. Procrastination? No
We have been working and thinking like mad ever since we decide it had to be done. The title of this thread is the ONE thing no one on here is talking about. Yes, we are going to blog. That part may end up being the easy part if we manage the time it takes.
This is about how we measure engagement and conversion of SM. There will be money spent on this from time to time and there will be barters that happen from time to time, and those spends need to work as promised. This is where a growing % of $ is going from the advertising budget of anyone who wants to find a way off the OTA teet. The airlines have mostly done it and hotels are doing it.
Trust me EN, you guys convinced me we needed to do this and we will. These things are making my brain hurt, but it will pay off to understand the backend of what is happening out there. If we can't get a handle on it this way (and I think we will) we may have to hire someone to get us through the tough stuff. That has worked out very well just recently.
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We have had so many unsolicited positive comments about the new website.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Sometimes you just have to jump after doing 'enough' research.
You can still do research but what do you have to show the influencers? Without the give and take it goes nowhere.
One blogger's meat is another's poison. This local blogger may have a lot of followers but it doesn't mean there's a formula. The best 'formula' is to be yourself and put out good content on a regular basis.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
You can actually start by using Google as a resource. What AdWords phrases cost the most for your area? Which ones have the most traffic? Don't start there. ;-)
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
These 2 did not like my town and ran it down every chance they got. "Don't stay in that town, stay here." Things like that. The more I posted, now being in their sights, the more they ran down the town.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Wasted a lot of money when we first started on print that did nothing.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
That is the plan
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
That is what we are working on. YES
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I like that too and have something similar in mind.
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
OH my. The travel sites are not for me. As the influencer who we will be doing our first trial run with said, " There are content guys and there are influences. You want the later." He made it clear that there a lot of people writing good stuff and going nowhere.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Sometimes you just have to jump after doing 'enough' research.
You can still do research but what do you have to show the influencers? Without the give and take it goes nowhere.
One blogger's meat is another's poison. This local blogger may have a lot of followers but it doesn't mean there's a formula. The best 'formula' is to be yourself and put out good content on a regular basis.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
You can actually start by using Google as a resource. What AdWords phrases cost the most for your area? Which ones have the most traffic? Don't start there. ;-)
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
These 2 did not like my town and ran it down every chance they got. "Don't stay in that town, stay here." Things like that. The more I posted, now being in their sights, the more they ran down the town.
.
.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
.
Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
.
Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Sometimes you just have to jump after doing 'enough' research.
You can still do research but what do you have to show the influencers? Without the give and take it goes nowhere.
One blogger's meat is another's poison. This local blogger may have a lot of followers but it doesn't mean there's a formula. The best 'formula' is to be yourself and put out good content on a regular basis.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
You can actually start by using Google as a resource. What AdWords phrases cost the most for your area? Which ones have the most traffic? Don't start there. ;-)
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
These 2 did not like my town and ran it down every chance they got. "Don't stay in that town, stay here." Things like that. The more I posted, now being in their sights, the more they ran down the town.
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I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Wasted a lot of money when we first started on print that did nothing.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
That is the plan
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
That is what we are working on. YES
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I like that too and have something similar in mind.
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
OH my. The travel sites are not for me. As the influencer who we will be doing our first trial run with said, " There are content guys and there are influences. You want the later." He made it clear that there a lot of people writing good stuff and going nowhere.
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What makes this person an influencer? What do they get out of pushing your product to their distribution?
 
Two things
First Social Media Examiner Michael Stelzner and social media marketing gurus aplenty
FB: https://www.facebook.com/smexaminer
They have currently a post such as:
26 Tips for Improving Your Social Media Marketing
Does your social media marketing need a boost? This article shares 26 ways, an A-Z guide, to improve your social media efforts.
Second
The forum here are not experts on this topic. Very few use social media marketing in their businesses more than a post here or there on any platform.
Lastly, I know I said two but here is one more: There are professionals dedicated to this and constantly evolves, so by the time I finish this sentence it has turned another corner...so to stay abreast of it requires much time and study. Facebook algorithms can take up a good portion of your time to try to stay on top of it, and then it changes, without notice. It is very complicated, to analyze the results of what you do is complicated and not easy.
 
Used to be a SM marketer in my past life. It's a huge subject that has a myriad of issues you have to deal with (and hence why people make a fairly good living consulting in it). Here's a couple of simple questions you need to ask"
Who are my current customers I want to keep? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
Who are my potential customers I want? What SM do they use? The answer is where you need to be.
What SM aren't used much by current or potential customers? The answer is where you shouldn't waste a moment.
You need to create a "personality" for you B&B/Inn. Are you trendy? Comfortable? An old friend? Grandma's House? Visualize your business as a person. Then in all your postings, visualize yourself as that person as you write posts.
Blogging is important. Even if you think potential and current customers don't read it, they do to some degree. And that added benefit of increasing your SEO makes it worth your time.
Some examples. Our past guests follow us on Facebook. We do a lot there. They don't use Twitter. We have an account, but our posts there are very infrequent. Most of our current/potentials aren't following us on Instagram, despite how we've tried to get them to. So that's basically a repost of photos from FB and our blog.
Finally, be very careful. It can be a huge time suck. It's much more fun to sit and gossip at the keyboard than replace outdated toilets. Make sure what you're doing is the best use of your time..
These are great tips. Any suggestions on audience identification? I see FB allows you to create a profile of that guest or even use your email list to figure out who your demographics are, but that is as far as I have gone with it so far. I think we can expand (at a cost) our FB presence successfully.
So I will be blogging and so will my husband, each with a distinct personality. It won't be grandma's house. We are looking at content acquisition and also looking at a program that does the posts when you want them to appear etc. We are determined to set this up so that it is not a huge twilight zone of unbounded time.
So, the big questions are about using (working with) bloggers and influencers. Do you do this?
In a few key conversations, we are hearing that this is what the big boys are doing and the sooner we figure out how to make that affordable and tap this resource, the sooner the better. THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM. Our tourism bureau is beginning to spend on these people and we need to do get on board with this system of distribution.
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Who is an influencer in your area? Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
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Morticia said:
Who is an influencer in your area?
Not sure yet. We are meeting with a local blogger who has been developing a larger following. Not sure how well it will fit with our demographics. Our goal is to learn how he gets work, (how the middle men hire him), how he built his following, and maybe learn a little about what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously, some bloggers get paid and some are willingly to do trades. A local blogger is less likely to do trades with us.
Morticia said:
Who do people respect when it comes to tourism or local info in your area?
There is not a single presence that fills this role. It is possible that we can begin to fill this niche. More research is needed to figure out how to do this, but it is obvious that these connections with influencers is the way you get repinned, retweeted, shared, and followed. Doing it with out spending hard cash is the tricky part.
Morticia said:
You need to then follow them where they are. Twitter? Facebook? A blog? Instagram?
Once following you need to comment on and share what they are posting. They DO notice this. I shared a story from a blogger who didn't mention us a place to stay. She noticed it, commented on the share, sent me a DM and said she would come by to look at our place for a different story.
Agreed. This will be part of our effort.
Morticia said:
If you have something of interest they missed, post it where they are speaking of that thing. Make sure, unlike my goof, that photos have your info on them.
Good reminder
Morticia said:
If your tourism board is really good try to be a guest blogger. Follow them on fb and post photos of your area when someone asks a question about your area.
I asked about this and I think they would be willing.
Morticia said:
If you cater to foodies or surfers or get away from it all types, post on websites devoted to these people.
Good thing to remember as far as being relevant.
Morticia said:
Set a schedule for doing this so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
This may end up being the most important thing of all
Morticia said:
I used to track questions on travel websites. Correcting misinformation about my area, suggesting restaurants, things to do and then adding my info at the end.
Why did you stop? It sounds like a great opportunity to get engagement going.
Morticia said:
Set up a time once/week to check a couple of busy travel websites. Even ta has a Q&A section.
all of this lies ahead...and we really haven't even talked about the KPI's and metrics.
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I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Sometimes you just have to jump after doing 'enough' research.
You can still do research but what do you have to show the influencers? Without the give and take it goes nowhere.
One blogger's meat is another's poison. This local blogger may have a lot of followers but it doesn't mean there's a formula. The best 'formula' is to be yourself and put out good content on a regular basis.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
You can actually start by using Google as a resource. What AdWords phrases cost the most for your area? Which ones have the most traffic? Don't start there. ;-)
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
These 2 did not like my town and ran it down every chance they got. "Don't stay in that town, stay here." Things like that. The more I posted, now being in their sights, the more they ran down the town.
.
I'm guessing the reason there is so much thought behind this is you don't want to make a mistake.
Wasted a lot of money when we first started on print that did nothing.
Do you have an email newsletter or email list of prior guests? Get a month's worth of good content in a blog and a plan under your belt for more and then send an email blast to your peeps. Ask them to follow your blog, fb, Twitter feed, etc. Ask them to share.
That is the plan
As for roi, the way to check is to have your metrics in place before you start. How do you presently track your performance? What is the goal of your future engagement?
That is what we are working on. YES
Start with something lower down the list, but useful and important. Write about it on your blog. That starts the clock on Google history. History counts. Local festivals. Foods. You could have a section on your blog called 'Hidden My Town' where you become the expert. (I like that one myself. Gotta think about it now!)
I like that too and have something similar in mind.
I stopped checking the travel sites because it got to be a rabbit hole. There were a couple of 'queen bees' who discounted everything I said, so it was better for my health to move on rather than have to defend my town every week.
OH my. The travel sites are not for me. As the influencer who we will be doing our first trial run with said, " There are content guys and there are influences. You want the later." He made it clear that there a lot of people writing good stuff and going nowhere.
.
Another thing you've probably thought of is - do you want to align your business with this person? What do they stand for?
 
Two things
First Social Media Examiner Michael Stelzner and social media marketing gurus aplenty
FB: https://www.facebook.com/smexaminer
They have currently a post such as:
26 Tips for Improving Your Social Media Marketing
Does your social media marketing need a boost? This article shares 26 ways, an A-Z guide, to improve your social media efforts.
Second
The forum here are not experts on this topic. Very few use social media marketing in their businesses more than a post here or there on any platform.
Lastly, I know I said two but here is one more: There are professionals dedicated to this and constantly evolves, so by the time I finish this sentence it has turned another corner...so to stay abreast of it requires much time and study. Facebook algorithms can take up a good portion of your time to try to stay on top of it, and then it changes, without notice. It is very complicated, to analyze the results of what you do is complicated and not easy..
good grief who has time to do all this stuff! this is getting way out of hand. i see no reason why a b and b should go to this much effort.
guess thats why I am retired. not going to take time to even wrap my mind around it. you do what you can within reason.
 
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