Price Per for room chocolates

[JBloggs]

I was just wondering if I got a good deal on the chocolates, so I calculated it out and brought the topic up. I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
It all affects our bottom line and whether we make anything in this business. Yes we write them off, but I still try to get good deals.

 

[Morticia]

I was just wondering if I got a good deal on the chocolates, so I calculated it out and brought the topic up. I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
It all affects our bottom line and whether we make anything in this business. Yes we write them off, but I still try to get good deals. .

I think it was on here and we all did have a collective heart attack. But I think the heart attacks came about because of the numbers that were being quoted for expenses (low) or RevPar where some were clearing $50 or $75 per room night.

 

[JBloggs]

I was just wondering if I got a good deal on the chocolates, so I calculated it out and brought the topic up. I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
It all affects our bottom line and whether we make anything in this business. Yes we write them off, but I still try to get good deals. .

I think it was on here and we all did have a collective heart attack. But I think the heart attacks came about because of the numbers that were being quoted for expenses (low) or RevPar where some were clearing $50 or $75 per room night.
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I think it was on here and we all did have a collective heart attack. But I think the heart attacks came about because of the numbers that were being quoted for expenses (low) or RevPar where some were clearing $50 or $75 per room night.

Here is one spreadsheet, got a chuckle out of the costs there which have inflated since this was put together in many areas. Not sure if this was the basis for that discussion or not. I know it always comes up around tax time though.

 

[swirt]

I was just wondering if I got a good deal on the chocolates, so I calculated it out and brought the topic up. I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
It all affects our bottom line and whether we make anything in this business. Yes we write them off, but I still try to get good deals. .

I think it was on here and we all did have a collective heart attack. But I think the heart attacks came about because of the numbers that were being quoted for expenses (low) or RevPar where some were clearing $50 or $75 per room night.
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I think it was on here and we all did have a collective heart attack. But I think the heart attacks came about because of the numbers that were being quoted for expenses (low) or RevPar where some were clearing $50 or $75 per room night.

Here is one spreadsheet, got a chuckle out of the costs there which have inflated since this was put together in many areas. Not sure if this was the basis for that discussion or not. I know it always comes up around tax time though.
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That spreadsheet (here is the actual file, rather than google's read of it) was for people to put in their own values. It was never meant to just be opened up and use the existing values. They were just examples of what goes where.

 

[swirt]

I was just wondering if I got a good deal on the chocolates, so I calculated it out and brought the topic up. I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
It all affects our bottom line and whether we make anything in this business. Yes we write them off, but I still try to get good deals. .

I try to keep on top of all costs involved in room rentals, I think you brought that up a while back Steve? Or the old forum. Do you have that on this forum? The daily operating cost per room, was that what you called it? When I think half of us had to be hooked up to an EKG.
I think you are talking about when I calculated the cost per couple per night. https://www.innspiring.com/node/2723

 

[Samster]

I don't understand the problem with the term "lifestyle B&B". What's annoying about it? I also don't have a problem with "hobby B&B" if that's what it is. It doesn't mean there's no work or committment involved. Lots of "hobbies" involve work, committment, resources.
I think it's useful to differentiate between a B&B that is relied on for financial support vs one that is not. It has an enormous impact on business decisions..

I don't understand the problem with the term "lifestyle B&B". What's annoying about it? I also don't have a problem with "hobby B&B" if that's what it is. It doesn't mean there's no work or committment involved. Lots of "hobbies" involve work, committment, resources.
I think it's useful to differentiate between a B&B that is relied on for financial support vs one that is not. It has an enormous impact on business decisions.

Ditto.
I will add that while it is the prerogative of a "lifestyle" or "hobby" B&B to add expensive extras, it does not necessarily mean that it is a good business practice. Enhancing guests' perception should make good financial sense in the long run. If it's not bringing new or repeat business, is it necessary?
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I don't understand the problem with the term "lifestyle B&B". What's annoying about it? I also don't have a problem with "hobby B&B" if that's what it is. It doesn't mean there's no work or committment involved. Lots of "hobbies" involve work, committment, resources.
I think it's useful to differentiate between a B&B that is relied on for financial support vs one that is not. It has an enormous impact on business decisions.

Ditto.
I will add that while it is the prerogative of a "lifestyle" or "hobby" B&B to add expensive extras, it does not necessarily mean that it is a good business practice. Enhancing guests' perception should make good financial sense in the long run. If it's not bringing new or repeat business, is it necessary?

I deleted my original post because we have actually hijacked this thread. I really didn't want to debate this issue here.For me..I am done with it...everyone makes their own choices for their own reasons.
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It is a really good topic (even though it is unrelated to chocolate). I think it is helpful when you clarify in a post that your situation may differ because your B&B was a lifestyle. It is sometimes a confusing term, (there really isn't a better one) but it helps set the context for the particular choice/choices you made.
I am sure that for every aspiring here who is considering a full blown, support the family B&B, there is another aspiring looking to do a scaled down version that still allows for more personal freedoms in exchange for less revenue. It helps both types to have that context. I encourage you to keep putting in your disclaimer when it is warranted.
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Isn't everything related to chocolate? I bet our friends on the forum in Mexico would say that's true!
I know that I was eating chocolate because I could feel the tension on the thread.
But I sidetrack again...

 

[JBloggs]

Yes Swirt I think that was it. Thanks. Not that I want to look at it AGAIN

ha ha It is very helpful and some times we just float along doing what we do and think we can write stuff off and not worry about the bottom line (that comes back to bite us).

 

[gillumhouse]

I always bought the different Ghiardelli Chocolate Squares.Something like $3.50 a bag. Wal Mart I think it a bit lower. Can't remember how many in a bag..but not more than a dozen I think..

In the regular bags, there are about 15-18 squares in each bag. I buy them on sale for under $3. I get a big bag of assorted squares when I can at World Market for $10.
Most of what I use is around $2.50-$3.50 per bag with 15-20 in them. Toblerone Minis, Ghirardelli, Lindor Truffles, and the Hershey's Special Dark squares are pretty tasty. Russell Stover had a Praline Chocolate Square that worked for here.
I don't worry about what they cost too much. I just want them to be nice. I guess I'm not that analytical. I try to put out something different each night of a multi-night stay. Sometimes, I'll even do a chocolate dipped strawberry.
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Okay so no telling me the cost PER room chocolate? That was what I was asking for.
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Taking the higher price of $3.50 per bag and dividing by the low count of 15 in a bag makes it .43 per piece which if 2 pieces oer room would be a cost of .86 per room per night.
I get bags of Hershey's kisses and toss a handful on the bed with a handful of silk roses when i have a couple coming in. There is also a small bowl of Hershey's kisses on the dresser.
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Ok, so I guess my costs were .75-.85 per room. Depending if candy on sale or not. That was just what I put on the pillows at turn down. Every room had a small bowlful of hershey kisses, small asst. hershey bars etc..depending on the season what type. This was just something I enjoyed providing and the guest sure seemed to enjoy eating I didn't care what the cost was...sorry...my lifestyle here again.
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Deleted due to being totally misunderstood.

 

[gillumhouse]

Deleted. because I got this thread off track...sorry..

Deleted - Never mind.

 

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[Joey Camb]

As sort of part of this though I may start a new thread. Do many people sit down and work out exactly what is costs to rent a room? (if you see what I mean?)
I keep meaning to do this but havn't got round to it. Back to the chocolate thread. I am thinking of putting chocs on the pillows but how do people do it? ie if you know that room is let today put them out then? I worry about hot days and that sort of thing. I currently have kit kat's on the hospitality tray but am thinking of changing to mini packs of cookies as they are more economical as we set up the rooms for 2 and if there is just one person they usually eat both. All the things to think about.

 

[Red Handed Jill]

As sort of part of this though I may start a new thread. Do many people sit down and work out exactly what is costs to rent a room? (if you see what I mean?)
I keep meaning to do this but havn't got round to it. Back to the chocolate thread. I am thinking of putting chocs on the pillows but how do people do it? ie if you know that room is let today put them out then? I worry about hot days and that sort of thing. I currently have kit kat's on the hospitality tray but am thinking of changing to mini packs of cookies as they are more economical as we set up the rooms for 2 and if there is just one person they usually eat both. All the things to think about..

Do many people sit down and work out exactly what is costs to rent a room? (if you see what I mean?)

IDK about "many," but I do. We sort of have to. For various reasons, our rates are incredibly low, esp compared with comparable properties in the region. It's not forever, but it was what DH & I felt the best decision for the time being. In the meantime. knowing knocking ANY money off the bill, knowing exactly how much I'll pay for water/electricity/gas per load of laundry, knowing the price per portion of a dish (yes, I'm a real geek about calculating), all that makes it much easier to dispassionately handle someone looking for a "deal."

 

[JBloggs]

This thread came up with another 2 dozen threads due to a spammer on here, fyi. No harm is using it tho!

Have you ever gone shopping at a big sale and everything was a great deal and then at the end you thought "Sheesh, what did I buy for all that?" Or those who shop Costco and the prices are great and it is never less than $150+ for a handful of items you purchased?
Well that is what we need to do with our inns, we need to keep an inventory and know our costs. We need to keep track of spoilage and waste. If we use indiv soaps and shampoos and they are $1.75 per room, chocolates $2.00 per room, that is already $3.75 off the top. Every "little" thing adds up.
Buying fruit not in season or not on sale, ie red grapes were $1.29 per lb, at the register they came up $3.89 a lb, that made the little bag of grapes I bought for one room over $10! So the clerk fixed it and they were back to the correct price which was in my budget.
It is wise to know what your rooms are costing you per guest, what the bottom line is. Give yourself this as an assignment to do when it slows down. Are you giving away more than you should? Maybe you would be surprised at the figure once you put it all down on paper or excel?

 

[gillumhouse]

This thread came up with another 2 dozen threads due to a spammer on here, fyi. No harm is using it tho!

Have you ever gone shopping at a big sale and everything was a great deal and then at the end you thought "Sheesh, what did I buy for all that?" Or those who shop Costco and the prices are great and it is never less than $150+ for a handful of items you purchased?
Well that is what we need to do with our inns, we need to keep an inventory and know our costs. We need to keep track of spoilage and waste. If we use indiv soaps and shampoos and they are $1.75 per room, chocolates $2.00 per room, that is already $3.75 off the top. Every "little" thing adds up.
Buying fruit not in season or not on sale, ie red grapes were $1.29 per lb, at the register they came up $3.89 a lb, that made the little bag of grapes I bought for one room over $10! So the clerk fixed it and they were back to the correct price which was in my budget.
It is wise to know what your rooms are costing you per guest, what the bottom line is. Give yourself this as an assignment to do when it slows down. Are you giving away more than you should? Maybe you would be surprised at the figure once you put it all down on paper or excel?.

Almost everything I get is sale priced. Blackberries were down to $2.50 from the usual $3.99 for a few weeks and I bought some. Even at that price it is rare I will spend that much for fruit. I also get wholesale price for my fruits & veggies at the produce place. That helps a LOT over a year since my average order is between $30 and $45 per week.

 

[Samster]

As sort of part of this though I may start a new thread. Do many people sit down and work out exactly what is costs to rent a room? (if you see what I mean?)
I keep meaning to do this but havn't got round to it. Back to the chocolate thread. I am thinking of putting chocs on the pillows but how do people do it? ie if you know that room is let today put them out then? I worry about hot days and that sort of thing. I currently have kit kat's on the hospitality tray but am thinking of changing to mini packs of cookies as they are more economical as we set up the rooms for 2 and if there is just one person they usually eat both. All the things to think about..

For where you are, I liked the shortbread cookie packs with the tea service tray. We had them at our hotel in York. After walking around town, I'd come back and have my tea and cookies. yummmmmm............

 

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