I am bad, sorry...but you know me by now. We also went very heavily on what we did NOT want. That was a big portion in our decision making.
After looking at many inns you can easily pick the ones that simply will not work, simply do not fit your needs from the get go. MOST OF THEM.
#1 being price. Altho I am sure most paid more than they orig anticipated, just like building from scratch always costs more than anticipated.
Location was not key for us as we looked all over the United States. We were first looking at the INN itself over the location (altho once again, bad weather locations were eliminated, we came close to NH and glad we didn't move there).
Mainly for us having two kids, was layout. BIG TIME. Layout HAD to work or be re-workable, which it is now after some remodelling.
Curb appeal was very important, I was not going to be in a place that was not lovely. I wanted it to be like all great B&B's - you drive up and KNOW it is a B&B. There are those homes - in fact some in this town which people assume are a B&B as the landscaping is gorgeous and the layout looks so appealing, to me that screams B&B. It is more than the guest rooms that make a B&B, it is the whole package. Guests feel this.
Workable B&B - couldn't have one with too little private owner space - couldn't be where we were in rooms near guest rooms or climbing an attic to live (many B&B layouts we saw were this way). Had to be separate private space that we can run around all we want and not have to go into guest areas. Our own entrances/exits.
History had zilch to do with it. There are a gazillion houses with history. Personality had zilch to do with it. It would become totally different with each innkeeper, so it had to be up to par - in other words, sicne we were buying "-so-called" turn key, renovations had to be in place and upgrades to operate efficiently as a B&B. No one wants to fork over big bucks and then have to double it in reno's and upgrades. By nature we do, of course, as innkeepers always wanting improvements.
Lastly, is it basically appealing? Is this an appealing home, an appealing B&B and an appealing business? Can we survive here? Can we live here day in and day out and be happy? We would not sell our house we built on acreage to a home that is not lovely. It was idiotic and crazy that we sold what we sold, a beautiful custom home down to the cabinets hand built, on acreage with high paying jobs, to move here in the first place - but we would never change it. The experience has been very worthwhile. It is like connect the dots in our life.
Those were the final questions we asked as we got excited that we had found "the right one" finally..
Yes, it really came down to that. Once we figured out the town, there were only so many houses that would work, really only three. One Victorian directly next door to another B&B, in need of lots of repair, and difficult to add bathrooms. Another up the street, beautiful and with separate quarters for us (it was a duplex), but realistically only three guest rooms. Then ours, easily four guest rooms and lots of space for us. (Not as nice as yours, but the space is here.) Plus ours has the best location, closest to the seminary and university... and I get calls asking if we're walking distance, so I know it matters a lot.JunieBJones (JBJ) said:We also went very heavily on what we did NOT want. That was a big portion in our decision making.
After looking at many inns you can easily pick the ones that simply will not work, simply do not fit your needs from the get go. MOST OF THEM.
we too knew what we DID NOT WANT. We had a list of criteria: price first, location, size, a place where we would have our own private space, certain building requirements..ie: brick not wood. And we knew the approximate area we wanted to be. then we started searching.In my mind, I am sort of leaning in the "what won't work" way when it comes to looking. I don't know exactly what I want, but I certainly know what I DON'T want. Unfortunately, location does play a big factor in our search. We want 4 seasons. 4 distinct seasons. I don't want to live somewhere where spring and summer blend into October and winter. I don't want all evergreen trees and no hardwood trees.
Thanks for your input. I value each of your opinions!.
Here is a funny story too - two people on this forum actually looked at purchasing our B&B before we did.
But when you are looking you look and look and look. For us, the right one meant NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER THIS IS IT! We were so excited, I cannot tell you.
When you are looking it wears you out - you see so many that will not work for you. Will they work for others? I am not even sure of that either.
I truly believe many 'starry eyed' aspiring innkeepers are willing to sacrifice to buy an Inn they want, then later regret it was not as functional as they had hoped. They were going to "make do" and make it work. They burn out quickly.
You cannot live in one room. Someone mentioned buying a large house and how lucky they were to have this large house. We don't, we have a large house and DO NOT USE the guest areas (per tax laws) so we can write those areas off, and we never intended on using them, that side is the business, not just a home. Another BIG reason is I cannot keep it all clean, once I get areas clean - nobody better put a grimy paw in there!.
We have innkeepers here today who bought a place we looked at and decided it wouldn't work for us. They love it. They've made it over quite a bit from what we saw when we looked at it. Many places we looked at are still for sale, or off the market but owned by the same people.JunieBJones (JBJ) said:Here is a funny story too - two people on this forum actually looked at purchasing our B&B before we did.
But when you are looking you look and look and look. For us, the right one meant NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER THIS IS IT! We were so excited, I cannot tell you.
When you are looking it wears you out - you see so many that will not work for you. Will they work for others? I am not even sure of that either.
I truly believe many 'starry eyed' aspiring innkeepers are willing to sacrifice to buy an Inn they want, then later regret it was not as functional as they had hoped. They were going to "make do" and make it work. They burn out quickly.
You cannot live in one room. Someone mentioned buying a large house and how lucky they were to have this large house. We don't, we have a large house and DO NOT USE the guest areas (per tax laws) so we can write those areas off, and we never intended on using them, that side is the business, not just a home. Another BIG reason is I cannot keep it all clean, once I get areas clean - nobody better put a grimy paw in there!
Being "one" of the people who did consider your place. We were actually told by the owner that "young folks like you would not fit in this town! You would be bored to death."Here is a funny story too - two people on this forum actually looked at purchasing our B&B before we did.
But when you are looking you look and look and look. For us, the right one meant NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER THIS IS IT! We were so excited, I cannot tell you.
When you are looking it wears you out - you see so many that will not work for you. Will they work for others? I am not even sure of that either.
I truly believe many 'starry eyed' aspiring innkeepers are willing to sacrifice to buy an Inn they want, then later regret it was not as functional as they had hoped. They were going to "make do" and make it work. They burn out quickly.
You cannot live in one room. Someone mentioned buying a large house and how lucky they were to have this large house. We don't, we have a large house and DO NOT USE the guest areas (per tax laws) so we can write those areas off, and we never intended on using them, that side is the business, not just a home. Another BIG reason is I cannot keep it all clean, once I get areas clean - nobody better put a grimy paw in there!.
I don't think so. We of course were MUCH younger way back then....when we looked... so I think she just drew the conclusion we wouldn't like a small town.She also pushed that she did those weddings and town event kinds of things..which of course we had no interest in doing.I wonder if she perceived you as big city folk or something?
Because you didn't end up buying in a city but country..
I don't think so. We of course were MUCH younger way back then....when we looked... so I think she just drew the conclusion we wouldn't like a small town.She also pushed that she did those weddings and town event kinds of things..which of course we had no interest in doing.I wonder if she perceived you as big city folk or something?
Because you didn't end up buying in a city but country..
I would NEVER live in a big city...like to be close to them..but not IN them
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I HEAR YA!catlady said:I don't think so. We of course were MUCH younger way back then....when we looked... so I think she just drew the conclusion we wouldn't like a small town.She also pushed that she did those weddings and town event kinds of things..which of course we had no interest in doing.
I would NEVER live in a big city...like to be close to them..but not IN them
We spent a whole Spring tru Fall looking. We made 4 trips from Illinois to WV for "house-hunting". We were not looking for turn-key. In fact, we were looking for a house that we could install my aunt upstairs and us down that could be a B & B when she finally croaked. One hot July day I walked down the stairs in a lovely house in the town we looked VERY hard in saying, I am not looking for a house foe me, I am looking for a house for myI am bad, sorry...but you know me by now. We also went very heavily on what we did NOT want. That was a big portion in our decision making.
After looking at many inns you can easily pick the ones that simply will not work, simply do not fit your needs from the get go. MOST OF THEM.
#1 being price. Altho I am sure most paid more than they orig anticipated, just like building from scratch always costs more than anticipated.
Location was not key for us as we looked all over the United States. We were first looking at the INN itself over the location (altho once again, bad weather locations were eliminated, we came close to NH and glad we didn't move there).
Mainly for us having two kids, was layout. BIG TIME. Layout HAD to work or be re-workable, which it is now after some remodelling.
Curb appeal was very important, I was not going to be in a place that was not lovely. I wanted it to be like all great B&B's - you drive up and KNOW it is a B&B. There are those homes - in fact some in this town which people assume are a B&B as the landscaping is gorgeous and the layout looks so appealing, to me that screams B&B. It is more than the guest rooms that make a B&B, it is the whole package. Guests feel this.
Workable B&B - couldn't have one with too little private owner space - couldn't be where we were in rooms near guest rooms or climbing an attic to live (many B&B layouts we saw were this way). Had to be separate private space that we can run around all we want and not have to go into guest areas. Our own entrances/exits.
History had zilch to do with it. There are a gazillion houses with history. Personality had zilch to do with it. It would become totally different with each innkeeper, so it had to be up to par - in other words, sicne we were buying "-so-called" turn key, renovations had to be in place and upgrades to operate efficiently as a B&B. No one wants to fork over big bucks and then have to double it in reno's and upgrades. By nature we do, of course, as innkeepers always wanting improvements.
Lastly, is it basically appealing? Is this an appealing home, an appealing B&B and an appealing business? Can we survive here? Can we live here day in and day out and be happy? We would not sell our house we built on acreage to a home that is not lovely. It was idiotic and crazy that we sold what we sold, a beautiful custom home down to the cabinets hand built, on acreage with high paying jobs, to move here in the first place - but we would never change it. The experience has been very worthwhile. It is like connect the dots in our life.
Those were the final questions we asked as we got excited that we had found "the right one" finally..
Turnover...almost every place in my town has turned over at least once in the past 4 years. There are the die hards who took over mom and dad's business and are still in the 'family' business, but there are only 3 places like that.For us it was the town, the business, and the owner's quarters - probably in that order. As it turned out, we were given false information about the business, but we've made it work anyway (that's a whole 'nother story). We didn't figure out which town in advance but when we came to THIS town we knew we would like it. We also decided early on in the process to buy an existing business rather than build one from scratch - that's an important consideration and may depend on the job situation for one of the family.
We got info on JBJ's place when we were looking but never got there to make a visit. Several places we looked at have turned over at least one more time since we saw them - it seems like some places are perpetually for sale but I'm not sure why.
I always thought I'd have a Victorian B&B when we first considered doing this over 20 years ago. I don't - our place is Federal-style. I am much happier with this reality because I feel I have more flexibility in furnishings, and there aren't as many dust collecting drapes and knick-knacks to clean!.
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