Bed & Breakfast Browser 2.0

[swirt]

Do you have plans for solving this issue?

Your site has only two indexed pages in google that are from nearly three months ago. Both are actually the same page. So you already have a canonical issue (shouldn't be showing the www and non-www version) . Your rewrite will solve that. I see that many of your listings have listing dates that go back to 2006 and you have said that some of your data is several years old. That should have been more than long enough to build some history and some toolbarPR as well. I am guessing that was all on the old domain at www.bedandbeakfastbrowser.com
I've looked at the design and don't see any major flaws so either of two things have happened, Either this site has just gone live within the past few days, or it has bigger problems. I see you are redirecting from www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com but only the home page. The other pages give me an "under modification message". example: http://www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com/cities-all/2-347-110/ontario.html
You want to get the redirects from all the other pages working before Google drops them all for being non-existent (You never want to lose history) It is the one thing you can't regain quickly or purchase. Once its gone, its gone..

Yep, www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com is the old domain, going back about four years. Its pages 301 redirect to www.bbbrowser.com as you can see here http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Awww.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com. You caught the old site with a broken database which stopped the redirects. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The two www.bbbrowser.com pages you see in Google are from before the site went online (hosting "no site configured" pages). It will all straighten out when Google picks up on the new site + the permanent redirects.
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It will all straighten out when Google picks up on the new site + the permanent redirects.
Something seems amiss. Your redirects should have gotten this site picked up by now. How long has the redirect been in place?
I am wondering if your server is returning the 301 correctly. When I run yours through my redirect checker it returns a 301 code but seems to be missing the location. (this may just be a limitation of my checker) For a 301 it will usually say:
Request made for www.xyz.com/
Response
Status Response: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Server: Apache
Location: http://www.newlocation.com/
for yours it says
Request made for www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com/
Response
Status Response: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:38:28 GMT
Connection: close
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
It is missing the reference to the end location.
It makes me wonder if google is not getting the message of the new location, even though the server does actually handle the redirect and display the location for the browser.
I redirected a blog on Monday afternoon and Google picked up the new location Wednesday morning. (not bragging, just giving you the typical timeframe for redirects.) Given the size of your old site, it should have grabbed something of the new site by now.

 

[swirt]

Do you have plans for solving this issue?

Your site has only two indexed pages in google that are from nearly three months ago. Both are actually the same page. So you already have a canonical issue (shouldn't be showing the www and non-www version) . Your rewrite will solve that. I see that many of your listings have listing dates that go back to 2006 and you have said that some of your data is several years old. That should have been more than long enough to build some history and some toolbarPR as well. I am guessing that was all on the old domain at www.bedandbeakfastbrowser.com
I've looked at the design and don't see any major flaws so either of two things have happened, Either this site has just gone live within the past few days, or it has bigger problems. I see you are redirecting from www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com but only the home page. The other pages give me an "under modification message". example: http://www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com/cities-all/2-347-110/ontario.html
You want to get the redirects from all the other pages working before Google drops them all for being non-existent (You never want to lose history) It is the one thing you can't regain quickly or purchase. Once its gone, its gone..

Yep, www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com is the old domain, going back about four years. Its pages 301 redirect to www.bbbrowser.com as you can see here http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Awww.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com. You caught the old site with a broken database which stopped the redirects. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The two www.bbbrowser.com pages you see in Google are from before the site went online (hosting "no site configured" pages). It will all straighten out when Google picks up on the new site + the permanent redirects.
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I did a little more digging using a server header tool.
http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/headers.asp
Running www.bedandbreakfastbrowser through it I can see the location of the redirect now.
For some reason it sets a cookie (never seen a cookie set before the redirect). Then it does show landing on the new location where twelve large session id's get set in cookies (necessary?).
It makes me wonder if that initial cookie set on the first landing is messing up Google's ability to pick up the redirect.
I'd give it a few more days and if Google still has no pages from the new site indexed, I'd do some digging to find out why.

 

[gliebster]

Sorry you just made me hiccup - Vegan chorizo. If there ever were two opposing words in this universe that would it.

Have you considered being a vendor at any of the Innkeeping Conferences? PAII, BBAV, Midatlantic etc. I am thinking more of the Vegan cooking site than the other, but you have them both - so you could do both..

Sorry you just made me hiccup - Vegan chorizo. If there ever were two opposing words in this universe that would it.

Look at this (Melissa's Soyrizo): http://www.melissas.com/Products/Products/Soyrizo.aspx
There's probably nothing better in my opinion than soyrizo and avocado inside of a crispy white flour tortilla. Probably has 100 grams of fat but at least it's cholesterol free.

Have you considered being a vendor at any of the Innkeeping Conferences? PAII, BBAV, Midatlantic etc. I am thinking more of the Vegan cooking site than the other, but you have them both - so you could do both.

Nope, just getting started in the B&B industry as can be seen. I'd probably have a panic attack anyway.
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Sorry you just made me hiccup - Vegan chorizo. If there ever were two opposing words in this universe that would it.

Look at this (Melissa's Soyrizo): http://www.melissas.com/Products/Products/Soyrizo.aspx
There's probably nothing better in my opinion than soyrizo and avocado inside of a crispy white flour tortilla. Probably has 100 grams of fat but at least it's cholesterol free.

I will try it, as I am not vegan, and I like chorizo, but IF I think about it I start gagging. Thanks for that.
Wait I have a question - would you eat this for breakfast? As typically we ate chorizo in eggs for breakfast, with avo and salsa. Would you have your version as a breakfast meal?
PS Can you add your resource website on its own new thread under resources here as I am really sidetracking, sorry.
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I haven't tried the soyrizo, but I would probably scramble it up with some tofu, then add avocado and roll it up in a tortilla as a breakfast burrito.
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That sounds delicious!
We add turmeric powder to our tofu scramble to make it look more egg-like (and all other kinds of seasoning so that it doesn't taste like crap).
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Have you tried the Tofu Scrambler from Fantastic World Foods? It comes in a box of 2 seasoning packets and the flavors are unique and really delicious. At one point in time I was having trouble finding it in my local market, so I bought a case of it from their website. Just google Fantastic World Foods if interested.
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Yeah, that stuff is really good. I can't find it locally anymore though.

 

[gliebster]

This is just to say that we spent the week cleaning up the directory. About two-thirds of the older/smaller listings were removed. Some were probably okay but most of them were as pathetic as some of you said they were which was pretty embarrasing. We then hand-checked the 1,800 that remained to make sure they were open and in fact B&Bs. That leaves us with 1,100. I feel a lot better about this and I bet if you browse the site you'd find it to be a lot more useful than it was on Monday. We'll do something similar with photos next week (need to set the best cover image for each). The directory is thinner but the submissions are rolling in and I'm happy about this "new start".
Thanks again everybody for the feedback. The site's info certainly would still be 80% junk without you!.

Thank you both.

 

[gliebster]

Do you have plans for solving this issue?

Your site has only two indexed pages in google that are from nearly three months ago. Both are actually the same page. So you already have a canonical issue (shouldn't be showing the www and non-www version) . Your rewrite will solve that. I see that many of your listings have listing dates that go back to 2006 and you have said that some of your data is several years old. That should have been more than long enough to build some history and some toolbarPR as well. I am guessing that was all on the old domain at www.bedandbeakfastbrowser.com
I've looked at the design and don't see any major flaws so either of two things have happened, Either this site has just gone live within the past few days, or it has bigger problems. I see you are redirecting from www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com but only the home page. The other pages give me an "under modification message". example: http://www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com/cities-all/2-347-110/ontario.html
You want to get the redirects from all the other pages working before Google drops them all for being non-existent (You never want to lose history) It is the one thing you can't regain quickly or purchase. Once its gone, its gone..

Yep, www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com is the old domain, going back about four years. Its pages 301 redirect to www.bbbrowser.com as you can see here http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Awww.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com. You caught the old site with a broken database which stopped the redirects. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The two www.bbbrowser.com pages you see in Google are from before the site went online (hosting "no site configured" pages). It will all straighten out when Google picks up on the new site + the permanent redirects.
.

I did a little more digging using a server header tool.
http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/headers.asp
Running www.bedandbreakfastbrowser through it I can see the location of the redirect now.
For some reason it sets a cookie (never seen a cookie set before the redirect). Then it does show landing on the new location where twelve large session id's get set in cookies (necessary?).
It makes me wonder if that initial cookie set on the first landing is messing up Google's ability to pick up the redirect.
I'd give it a few more days and if Google still has no pages from the new site indexed, I'd do some digging to find out why.
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Thanks for shedding some light on this. I didn't know Google picked up on redirects so quickly (now I do!), but I can see what you mean about something fishy with the headers. That cookie is ESPECIALLY strange on the index, because the script is as simple as this. Weird.
<?
header("HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location: http://www.bbbrowser.com/");
exit;
?>
I'll have to dig deeper at this on Monday, as you said.

 

[gliebster]

Do you have plans for solving this issue?

Your site has only two indexed pages in google that are from nearly three months ago. Both are actually the same page. So you already have a canonical issue (shouldn't be showing the www and non-www version) . Your rewrite will solve that. I see that many of your listings have listing dates that go back to 2006 and you have said that some of your data is several years old. That should have been more than long enough to build some history and some toolbarPR as well. I am guessing that was all on the old domain at www.bedandbeakfastbrowser.com
I've looked at the design and don't see any major flaws so either of two things have happened, Either this site has just gone live within the past few days, or it has bigger problems. I see you are redirecting from www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com but only the home page. The other pages give me an "under modification message". example: http://www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com/cities-all/2-347-110/ontario.html
You want to get the redirects from all the other pages working before Google drops them all for being non-existent (You never want to lose history) It is the one thing you can't regain quickly or purchase. Once its gone, its gone..

Yep, www.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com is the old domain, going back about four years. Its pages 301 redirect to www.bbbrowser.com as you can see here http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Awww.bedandbreakfastbrowser.com. You caught the old site with a broken database which stopped the redirects. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The two www.bbbrowser.com pages you see in Google are from before the site went online (hosting "no site configured" pages). It will all straighten out when Google picks up on the new site + the permanent redirects.
.

I did a little more digging using a server header tool.
http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/headers.asp
Running www.bedandbreakfastbrowser through it I can see the location of the redirect now.
For some reason it sets a cookie (never seen a cookie set before the redirect). Then it does show landing on the new location where twelve large session id's get set in cookies (necessary?).
It makes me wonder if that initial cookie set on the first landing is messing up Google's ability to pick up the redirect.
I'd give it a few more days and if Google still has no pages from the new site indexed, I'd do some digging to find out why.
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I found out what that X-Mapping cookie was. It has to do with my host's load balancing and it should not be a problem. I'm sure Google is smart enough that when it sees 301 status and Location that it can see that a permanent redirect is happening. They're starting to index some pages on the new domain now.
I found these tools which you might find useful:
http://tools.seobook.com/general/spider-test/ (spider test)
http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/ (another header response checker)