thanks alibi. as an aspiring am stating to get the "negatives" from family and friends including my 90 yr old mum. They find it hard to accept that I am to give up my professional life which is not even remotely connected to hospitality (other than caring for people) . my response so far has been "I am finding medicine (usually 60 hour weeks) far too easy and want to find out what really hard work looks like". Usually keeps them quiet for about 30secs! JJ.